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ofni
Posted 25/4/2007 16:19 (#11965)
Subject: Objective "Taking Aisleyne Seriously"




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Aisleyne says in her Reveal modelling shoot that she's fed up of being thought of as just a bimbo, and wants to be taken more seriously. That is something I'm sure we would all welcome and agree with. Most of us became Aisleyne fans because we saw during BB7 that she was indeed someone with much more to offer than just her more obvious "assets" (which in themselves set her in class of her own anyway!). What else accounts for the amazingly diverse range of Ash's fan-base?

So in this thread, let's have a bit of a Brainstorming session and make some suggestions as to how "the Seriousisation of Aisleyne" can be achieved.

No doubt the temptation to be "witty" (eg "wear a burkha") will be irresistible to some (like me for a kick-off!), but please try to make at least ONE sober and sensible suggestion per post (and tell us which suggestion you think is the sensible one, ,just so we know!). As we are brainstorming, it might in any case be one of the silly suggestions that could actually trigger off a good idea!

And remember, chances are Aisleyne herself will read these suggestions, so it's well worth doing.

My first suggestion:

More fashion and less flashin'.

In other words, more shoots like the Reveal one please! And if the photographers want to photograph your boobs (as well they might!) , make 'em pay for it in a PROPER glamour shoot!
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Odm
Posted 25/4/2007 16:54 (#11968 - in reply to #11965)
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I have previously mentioned something similar Ofni and I agree it is a good idea to set forth a few suggestions.

I have already made this one, but I think Ais would do well to be a regular Model in a catalogue...there are lots of Catalogues apart from the obvious ones like Kays, Littlewoods etc., some fashion shops have their own catalogues like Next etc., so I would like Ais to participate in catalogue Modelling and wear clothing such as that in the Closer shoot where she wore beautiful things from the forties...etc.

I think Ais should be doing a couple of TV commercials too...


I forgot to mention that regarding taking Aisleyne seriously...sometimes who you mix with has a large connection to what other people think of you...should,nt say that but unfortunately it happens to be true and often people can tar you with the ' same brush ' so if Aisleyne is careful about her company and also where she socialises then people wont call her a Bimbo ....ignoring those facts just gives people fodder to chew on...and that is very annoying for her fans as we all know....

Edited by Odm 25/4/2007 16:58
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kowalski
Posted 25/4/2007 20:42 (#11993 - in reply to #11965)
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I'd love to see Ash do more shoots like the one she did in MORE a few months back , this was various outfits and looks , basically a Vogue style shoot , if I were an editor I'd definitely pick her for this because she really looks so good in different outfits and styles.

But it also has to be said that Ash has to go with what comes her way , so I won't be disappointed if she does more Lads mags because she has to take each opportunity , as long as she feels comfortable doing it that's fine .
We have to remember that Ash isn't a magazine editor, she doesn't have that power .

On another aspect - I'd really like to see Ash talk more about her multi-cultural lifestyle that she clearly knows a lot about , this was something generally mocked by BB (the Ali G put-downs etc. ), but Ash is someone who mixes with many types of people, it's something very contemporary , lots of young people now are growing up with various cultural influences and this is reflected in their style of speech .

The media is often behind in understanding these sorts of things , I'll admit that I myself thought Ash was 'putting it on' at first until I realised that that's who she is , I thank her for that because it made me realise that the old ideas of regional accents are changing .

And I'd really like to just hear more about her own life, and how she feels about things , she's such an honest person it would be fascinating .

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Julian
Posted 25/4/2007 21:53 (#11994 - in reply to #11993)
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I think Aisleyne has multiple audiences at the moment. The lad-mag culture presumably demands skimpy outfits, the odd bit of flashing, top-less photo shoots and sexual inuendo in interviews.

The more serious side includes much classier fashion shoots such as the one in Reveal as well as her More advice column which, although of a sexual nature, is good, sensible down-to-earth advice.

If Ais can pull off both at the same time then all power to her but the press are always going to pick up on the more salacious side and use that as their angle to sell copy. They don't want to take Aisleyne seriously - serious doesn't sell

Now if Ais can find something that is both serious and sells (ideally TV) and can persuade some producer or other that she can pull it off then she can afford to ditch the other stuff (asuming she wants to) but, until then, it's keeping her in the public eye and that can't be bad

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emptybox
Posted 25/4/2007 22:15 (#11999 - in reply to #11965)
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Ash should really stick in with her radio show and other such ventures. Film roles, TV shows etc, and push for her management to seek them out.

Also she should stop pandering to the paps. By all means wear sensational wow factor outfits to events, but leave the flashing of flesh or underwear to others.

We know you like your boobs (so do we!), but wait until you're paid good money to show them off.

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Rumble
Posted 29/4/2007 08:31 (#12578 - in reply to #11965)
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I don't know if this is the right place to mention this, but I've noticed on Wikipedia Aisleyne only appears as part of the list of BB7 HMs (albeit a long entry), unlike Nikki and more recently Pete. There's constant suggestions to/resistance against splitting off HMs, but there should be enough publicly available info now to make a strong case for a separate article for Ash if anyone wanted to make one. (Not least as there are over 1000 forum members (Leynites? ) which seems a strong argument for her being 'notable'.) As always, dropping the BB tag is good because for many people 'ex-BB girl'-->bimbo and besides BB8 is looming.

Wikipedia isn’t the most important thing in the world, but presumably journalists look it up, and having a separate page might influence the way they think/write.
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maringo
Posted 29/4/2007 08:38 (#12580 - in reply to #12578)
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Rumble - 29/4/2007 08:31

I don't know if this is the right place to mention this, but I've noticed on Wikipedia Aisleyne only appears as part of the list of BB7 HMs (albeit a long entry), unlike Nikki and more recently Pete. There's constant suggestions to/resistance against splitting off HMs, but there should be enough publicly available info now to make a strong case for a separate article for Ash if anyone wanted to make one. (Not least as there are over 1000 forum members (Leynites? ) which seems a strong argument for her being 'notable'.) As always, dropping the BB tag is good because for many people 'ex-BB girl'-->bimbo and besides BB8 is looming.

Wikipedia isn’t the most important thing in the world, but presumably journalists look it up, and having a separate page might influence the way they think/write.


I noticed that earlier and tried to change it. However, I found it hard to fathom out how to do it. Any Wikipedia experts out there?
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secrethousemate
Posted 29/4/2007 09:53 (#12584 - in reply to #11965)
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I created a separate page for her but the Wikipedia people replaced it, the swines. I'm not sure how you get into the chat pages to discuss it - maybe you have to be part of the inner sect first?

I get the feeling that when this lingerie campaign goes public, that might sway them to include her. Being on at least a dozen front covers of the national press doesn't seem to be enough, sadly.

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ofni
Posted 29/4/2007 09:55 (#12585 - in reply to #12580)
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maringo - 29/4/2007 08:38

Rumble - 29/4/2007 08:31

I don't know if this is the right place to mention this, but I've noticed on Wikipedia Aisleyne only appears as part of the list of BB7 HMs (albeit a long entry), unlike Nikki and more recently Pete. There's constant suggestions to/resistance against splitting off HMs, but there should be enough publicly available info now to make a strong case for a separate article for Ash if anyone wanted to make one. (Not least as there are over 1000 forum members (Leynites? ) which seems a strong argument for her being 'notable'.) As always, dropping the BB tag is good because for many people 'ex-BB girl'-->bimbo and besides BB8 is looming.

Wikipedia isn’t the most important thing in the world, but presumably journalists look it up, and having a separate page might influence the way they think/write.


I noticed that earlier and tried to change it. However, I found it hard to fathom out how to do it. Any Wikipedia experts out there?


At the risk of endangering my genius status, I'm afraid I can't help, but it sounds exactly the right thing to do if someone can crack it!
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dannyk
Posted 29/4/2007 12:16 (#12589 - in reply to #11965)
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Anyone can discuss issues like that on Wikipedia. On the list of BB7 housemates page, click on discussion at the top, and if you scroll down to the bottom you'll see there's already a suggestion to split Ash (which was objected to). If you wanna make your own comments, click the 'edit' link above the 'Split Aisleyne?' section. Don't forget to add ~~~~ at the end of your comments, which 'signs' your comment. If you're not a member, it'll be your IP address.
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dannyk
Posted 29/4/2007 12:22 (#12590 - in reply to #11965)
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Might as well answer the Q while I'm at it! I agree on the flashing issue. Ash doesn't seem to have any trouble getting photoshoots, so she doesn't need to do that to get coverage.

Carry on targetting a range of audiences, which has been one of the things that has made Ash different in her approach from the other BB7 housemates.

The radio show could open doors, so I would definitely suggest keeping that going.

Some more TV appearances would be great. I could deffo see Ash on Loose Women. I liked ofni's panto suggestion too.
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Rumble
Posted 22/5/2007 10:04 (#15575 - in reply to #11965)
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*Bump*

Just returning to the Wikipedia thing, is anyone good at looking up archived stuff on the talk pages?

I was going to add a comment saying (partly) that it just makes no sense to have an article separate from BB for Pete, when he's famous pretty much exclusively for winning the thing, and not for Aisleyne. Then I wondered whether there'd been a discussion about splitting Pete off which dealt with that, and I'd look like a prat. Was there any discussion for Pete's? Cheers.
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ofni
Posted 22/5/2007 10:19 (#15576 - in reply to #11965)
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Dunno about Pete, I'm afraid, but now that Aisleyne stands alone on Celebdaq, and even more so once they rename her there, surely she has won the right to be a "free-standing" celeb in her own right?
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secrethousemate
Posted 22/5/2007 11:23 (#15580 - in reply to #11965)
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I think the argument for Pete was that all winners are considered 'notable' and get a separate entry. I don't recall why Nikki got a listing though - possibly for getting Princess Nikki? She was split off quite soon after BB ended.
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remaha
Posted 22/5/2007 19:30 (#15604 - in reply to #11965)
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I think Ash needs to start thinking about life after modelling. She has mentioned counselling a few times as a potential career. I think she's be good at it.

Even if she never takes it up, it would be something that might help in the TV and radio arena for certain types of shows - if it works for Frasier, why not Ash.

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boldjohn
Posted 22/5/2007 22:05 (#15609 - in reply to #15604)
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I could use a bit of counselling from Aisleyne.
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Odm
Posted 22/5/2007 22:17 (#15611 - in reply to #15604)
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remaha - 22/5/2007 19:30

I think Ash needs to start thinking about life after modelling. She has mentioned counselling a few times as a potential career. I think she's be good at it.

Even if she never takes it up, it would be something that might help in the TV and radio arena for certain types of shows - if it works for Frasier, why not Ash.



Well shes getting practice in her More Mag Column Rem, so you never know she could end up being a Denise Robinson somewhere...
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Rumble
Posted 27/11/2007 02:50 (#25835 - in reply to #12584)
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secrethousemate - 29/4/2007 09:53

I created a separate page for her but the Wikipedia people replaced it, the swines. I'm not sure how you get into the chat pages to discuss it - maybe you have to be part of the inner sect first?
*Randomly resurrects thread*

Just a thought - whatever the objections to Aisleyne having her own page on Wikipedia, the knockdown argument for Nikki having *her* own page was 'Princess Nikki', ie a TV show based around her. If Aisleyne's TV stuff is going to plan, are you dusting off your article, secret?
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ofni
Posted 27/11/2007 08:19 (#25837 - in reply to #25835)
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Rumble - 27/11/2007 02:50

secrethousemate - 29/4/2007 09:53

I created a separate page for her but the Wikipedia people replaced it, the swines. I'm not sure how you get into the chat pages to discuss it - maybe you have to be part of the inner sect first?
*Randomly resurrects thread*

Just a thought - whatever the objections to Aisleyne having her own page on Wikipedia, the knockdown argument for Nikki having *her* own page was 'Princess Nikki', ie a TV show based around her. If Aisleyne's TV stuff is going to plan, are you dusting off your article, secret?


A very timely resurrection indeed, I reckon, and not just for the Wikipedia point, which certainly sounds like a gotcha to me.

Maybe even more interesting is to read over again the comments and suggestions made all those months ago, and to see how Aisleyne's career has progressed since then very much in-line with what was being said. Without being overly presumptuous, it does seem to me from some of the comments Ash has made in various interviews that she did read this thread and similar comments elsewhere and has acted on it.
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mich007
Posted 29/12/2007 16:53 (#26780 - in reply to #11965)
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It's so good to see Ash branching out into other areas. I am quite frankly fed up of people slating her and saying all she can do is glamour modeling. I think the role she has an ambassador for Club for Climate and her role as Patron of the Brain Tumor charity was perhaps the turning point. The clothing range is another extremely positive thing, and it's great seeing her at these award ceremonies giving out awards. If you read this Ash be encouraged and good luck with your TV work. I think it is important to think of the pros and cons with any TV work you are offered . Some TV offers can kill your TV career especially if they end up making you look like a fool. There are so many wacky reality shows out there now especially on MTV. Your latest show that shows you in a positive light. It will be better mixing wise when it is filmed as your own individual show.

Wishing you a great 2008.

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