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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | Does this woman ever give her jaws a rest. She is always going on at someone about washing up, cleaning and her routine. I have only started watching the live feed since Charley left and I've had enough of Carole already. She seems pretty devious to me. 
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| It'll be interesting to see what Aisleyne thinks of kai.2k's question about Carole...
http://www.aisleyne.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1584&posts...
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | She has not stopped today. She really has it in for Amy. First of all she stirs it with David then Shanessa and now Gerry. So what if Amy fancies Liam and Liam fancies Amy, who cares? They are both adults and it has nothing to do with her. She really does not want anyone else getting close to Ziggy or Liam. I normally like to see older people in the house for a bit of variety but with Carole I'm wondering where she parked her broomstick. 
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | Carole is already trying to isolate Amy by telling a pack of lies to Ziggy and Liam. She is trying to isolate Amy. Luckily Brian has not bought it and is telling Amy what is going on. Carole is trying to do to Amy what Richard did to Aisleyne last year.
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| When Aisleyne's blog was first discussed on DSBB, there were those who predicted that whoever Aisleyne favoured would get the slavish adoration of her fans. The case of Carole is a bit of a smack in the eye to that accusation, innit? |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Although the case of Brian could be considered an 'I told you so' 
I'm really not sure about Carole. I think she sees the original housemates, particularly Ziggy and Liam, as being under her wing and has been getting much too over-protective of them.
It's possible she's right about Amy. I haven't made my mind up about her either 
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| Julian - 1/8/2007 23:49
Although the case of Brian could be considered an 'I told you so'
The case of Brian is even more complicated though, innit. He became popular on here because HE liked Aisleyne - then Aisleyne picked up on it here and became a Brian fan as a result.
I think Aisleyne's support for Carole is part of her deeply ingrained "respect for elders" mindset which also fuelled her outrage over Watergate last year. |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | ofni - 2/8/2007 00:00
The case of Brian is even more complicated though, innit. He became popular on here because HE liked Aisleyne - then Aisleyne picked up on it here and became a Brian fan as a result.
I think Aisleyne's support for Carole is part of her deeply ingrained "respect for elders" mindset which also fuelled her outrage over Watergate last year.
Excellent points 
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Location: Holland | i have gone off her a bit, because of the amy and liam thing..i have respect for her becuase shes like the mother for the house and looks out for everyone..but she mobiles me off sometimes like when she tells people off lol |
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | Just look at this link to see Carole spying on Amy and Liam.
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"I tried really hard with Amy when she came in but she didn't want to know"
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| I don't like Carole she's a really nasty person.
The way she is treating Amy is really awfull.
Just because Amy likes one of Carole's Boys Liam.
I know Carole is one of Aisleyne's favourates, but personally i can't stand her.
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Location: Wales | I havent watched LF so i can only coment on what ive seen but i really havent seen carole do anything in the highlights that is that bad i still really like carole *hides* |
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| Carole's a witch. Her thing with Liam and Ziggy isn't "taking them under her wing" because they were in there first. It's that she has a problem with coming to terms with the fact that she's old and fat (I'm entitled to say that as I'm older than her, though not quite so fat) and nice looking young blokes like those two would rather lick out the loo with their tongues than give her one. She's behaving like the mother-in-law from hell with the attractive young girls. But the HMs still see her as their mum, which undermines their ability to spot what's going on and deal with her.
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| I've been thinking about the Carole situation, and after seeing some of the HLs last night I've come to some kind of conclusion.
The basic problem is that there are no adults in the BB house.
Carole, as the nearest approximation to one, has merely filled the vacuum and become the "a single parent", and most of the remaining "original" HMs have abdicated their adulthood (if they ever had any) and become her dependant children. Oddly enough, the twins who have the most excuse for being "children" are the ones who are the least brainwashed, though sadly they are too young and immature to break the tyranny (though they have shown through chicken-gate that they would be ready allies for a proper rebellion). Gerry would like to be part of a coup, but he doesn't seem able to be constructively assertive, and can't get beyond mere goading and baiting.
The answer is simple, but the implementation might now be virtually impossibe. The answer is "Act like a housemate. Treat Carole as a housemate." That's it. Unfortunately, too many HMs, through idleness and laissez-faire prefer the cosy comfort zone of dependency on Mother. Anyone new, such as Kara, who would like to take an "adult" part in the housekeeping, faces not just Carole, but the pathetic bunch of wimps that now cling around her apron strings.
I've seen comments on other forums asking why BB "allow" this to continue. On this score i find BB Not Guilty. The ones "allowing" this to happen are the HMs - they're ADULTS for goodness sake!
In essence BB8 has finally (post-Charley) become a social experiment again, and it's basically now about adulthood vs dependency, and is crying out for a proper analysis. Is there an existentialist in the house? |
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | ofni - 7/8/2007 12:02 I've been thinking about the Carole situation, and after seeing some of the HLs last night I've come to some kind of conclusion. The basic problem is that there are no adults in the BB house. Carole, as the nearest approximation to one, has merely filled the vacuum and become the "a single parent", and most of the remaining "original" HMs have abdicated their adulthood (if they ever had any) and become her dependant children. Oddly enough, the twins who have the most excuse for being "children" are the ones who are the least brainwashed, though sadly they are too young and immature to break the tyranny (though they have shown through chicken-gate that they would be ready allies for a proper rebellion). Gerry would like to be part of a coup, but he doesn't seem able to be constructively assertive, and can't get beyond mere goading and baiting. The answer is simple, but the implementation might now be virtually impossibe. The answer is "Act like a housemate. Treat Carole as a housemate." That's it. Unfortunately, too many HMs, through idleness and laissez-faire prefer the cosy comfort zone of dependency on Mother. Anyone new, such as Kara, who would like to take an "adult" part in the housekeeping, faces not just Carole, but the pathetic bunch of wimps that now cling around her apron strings. I've seen comments on other forums asking why BB "allow" this to continue. On this score i find BB Not Guilty. The ones "allowing" this to happen are the HMs - they're ADULTS for goodness sake! In essence BB8 has finally (post-Charley) become a social experiment again, and it's basically now about adulthood vs dependency, and is crying out for a proper analysis. Is there an existentialist in the house? All BB need to do now then is show this on the highlights. The highlights make out that she is a jolly middle aged woman who is up for a laugh when in reality she is a moaning control freak. Why did BB not show the reason that Chanelle argued with Ziggy that lead to her walking out (Carole telling Ziggy that Liam fancied Chanelle). Why don't we see the source of the housemates suspicions of Amy (Carole drip feeding rubbish to them). Yesterday she spent the first hour after the alarm went off moaning that they all eat Cereal for breakfast, she went on and on and on. Will that get shown on the highlights? She was still moaning at Gerry for spilling sugar on Friday night. The relative roles in the house are interesting but BB are misleading the public via the highlights shows regarding Carole. I bet viewers last night were wondering what the girls were frightened of by cooking dinner because there has not been any evidence of Carole being a control freak in any other highlights shows. They were frightened of her for a reason. They showed that they are quite capable of looking after themselves but have not previously been given the opportunity. The sooner Carole is out the better, there will be more fun in the house.
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| I think Carole seems to be more hated than Charley, in fact I think she's worse than Grace, Grace had her age for an excuse for her behaviour, Carole does not |
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| There's an interesting entry in the NOTW blog where Carole gets compared to BB7's Richard. Aisleyne gets a mention as "Pete's only genuine competitor"...
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | That article sums up Carole perfectly. She is as nasty as Richard. Very calculating in what she says. |
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Location: Scottish Borders | Great article. I just don't understand why BB has been protecting her so much on highlights. Today's BBBM was anti-Carole, so perhaps that protection is coming to an end. |
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | Liam has finally confronted Carole about hiding food. She has turned on the waterworks and then denied it. They ought to look in her box and find the box of bran flakes she has hidden.
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| Wrong strategy - she'll just play the martyr card and it'll be back to square one (and the highlights will be edited to make her look like the hardworking victim amid ungrateful HMs).
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | There has just been a massive row over the shopping list. Anyone would think there are 8 veggies in the house the amount of stuff she ordered for her and Jonty. She really is a control freak. Best organic veggies for her and cheap mince for the rest. It's a shame she is going to be saved by yet another BB twist. If the public vote her out this week the Gurus will save her on Friday. If only they searched under her bed and found out what a decietful person she is.
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | They have now had their luxury budget scrapped because Carole hid some food. She still won't hold her hands up and say sorry. Hopefully the gurus remeber this on Friday if she is one of the ones they can choose from on Friday.
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | premierscfc - 15/8/2007 19:57
They have now had their luxury budget scrapped because Carole hid some food. She still won't hold her hands up and say sorry. Hopefully the gurus remeber this on Friday if she is one of the ones they can choose from on Friday.
I'd be very surprised if the Gurus ever pick Carole to evict no matter how much she irritates them. Even if they wanted to they'd be worried about being seen as pariahs by the rest of the house 
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | Julian - 15/8/2007 23:39 premierscfc - 15/8/2007 19:57 They have now had their luxury budget scrapped because Carole hid some food. She still won't hold her hands up and say sorry. Hopefully the gurus remeber this on Friday if she is one of the ones they can choose from on Friday.
I'd be very surprised if the Gurus ever pick Carole to evict no matter how much she irritates them. Even if they wanted to they'd be worried about being seen as pariahs by the rest of the house Regards Julian You are quite right they won't choose Carole. Kara will probably go because of how "tight the group is". Some of them are in for a right shock when they come out of the house and find out that they are not as "tight a group" as they thought and they find that Carole has played and manipulated them. They should have no trust or faith in her after she blatantly lied to them when Liam asked if she had hidden food. She said no but produced a pack of biscuits today to go with the loaf of bread and block of cheese she produced earlier in the week. |
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Location: Wales | I think caroles time is coming to a end i was a huge fan of hers but this week hearing about her hiding food etc we all know had that been somebody else carole would have flipped and caused a huge scene yet cause its her she just puts the water works on and blatantly lies one rule for her and her own hard rules for everyone else , i dont want to see her booed she has been a huge charater this year and i still like her tons but she has really let herself down had she played fair she really could have been in the final . |
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | Who needs enemies when you have a friend like Carole. This week she nominated Tracey and Ziggy for eviction, only 3 days after they saved her by choosing to evict Gerry. She really is a piece of work.
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | She's shown in the past that she has no concept of loyalty.
Still, I think it's still fitting that she should at least make it to the final week. She's been a pretty big part of the show.
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | Looks like Sam is her next victim. She is now spreading gossip about Sam and Liam and Sam has been in tears. Mind you I have no sympathy for any of them. They have had their opportunity to get rid of her but took the easy option of nominating the newbies instead. Even Brian knew that Chanelle left because of Carole's bullsh** but did not have the bottle to do anything about it.
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Location: Wakefield | premierscfc - 23/8/2007 09:01
Looks like Sam is her next victim. She is now spreading gossip about Sam and Liam and Sam has been in tears. Mind you I have no sympathy for any of them. They have had their opportunity to get rid of her but took the easy option of nominating the newbies instead. Even Brian knew that Chanelle left because of Carole's bullsh** but did not have the bottle to do anything about it.
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | Carole has always been a nasty piece of work. I have only watched a lot of BB8 since Charley left but straight away picked up on Carole being nasty. For some reason BB edited her nastiness out of the highlights programs (there was plenty of it on the live feed). She was particularly nasty to Amy without any justification and also nasty to Chanelle. The row that caused Chanelle to leave was started by Carole telling lies about Chanelle and Liam. BB have obviously changed tack with the highlights shows now and the real Carole (the one that we saw on the live feed) is now being shown. Why they did this I have no idea, the house would have been a lot happier if she was evicted weeks ago. She has no loyalty whatsoever, she was saved by Tracey and Ziggy on a Friday so she nominates them on a Monday. I think Friday will be very uncomfortable for Carole and she will get a terrible reception from the crowd.
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