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Posted 5/6/2008 22:45 (#29174)
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Aisleyne has watched the launch show and loves it so far. She's writing her blog now - it should be online around 1 pm Friday.

http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP 

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Posted 6/6/2008 01:07 (#29183 - in reply to #29174)
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Very hard to tell from first impressions but right now I'm quite liking everyone (except maybe the shrieker )

The secret task is a good idea at the moment but I'd be surprised if they were really taken in by the wedding twist. If it were me I'd just play along secure in the knowledge that no way would they do something like that for real. Stll, maybe that's just me


I do think its sad that so many people feel they have to boo the contestants going in, nowadays. It's bad enough on the way out but on the way in? Where's the attraction in making people feel bad?

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Posted 7/6/2008 03:24 (#29203 - in reply to #29183)
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Apart from Rebecca who is too loud, I don't have a problem with any of them at this point.

Mario scored some brownie points, taking Michael under his wing and giving him a tour of the house. I think he's a nice guy if a little over-earnest :D

Lisa seems to be taking the twist in good humour. If BB were hoping she'd feel threatened by Steph I don't think it's going to happen.

Steph is certainly a looker but she seems to be quite sweet with it. She could easily be the first one out the way things are going and I really hope not as I think she has potential.

Luke at the moment seems to be a bit of a non-entity. I suspect BB added him as the fourth member of the secret mission housemates in the hope that if the four end up going up he'll be the most expendable. He would certainly be my choice to go if that happened.

Dale's VT set him up as the arrogant type but I think it's just a case of audition hype, to be honest. He seems like a nice enough bloke.

I'm not sure about Sylvia. I think she could be a love her or hate her type and I'm not sure which at the moment! She reminds me a bit of both BB8 Charlie and BB6 Makosi which doesn't bode well but she did show some concern for Rebecca on her entrance, giving her a drink to calm down so she could be alright.

I wasn't keen on Alexandra at first. I'm still not sure but she's growing on me watching the live streaming.

I've not seen much of Rebecca other than all the screeching during the launch night. She's probably my least favourte right now.

Michael is a nice guy and quite funny. Hopefully if he does well it will be because of his personality and not because he's the next Pete/Nadia object of sympathy type.

I wasn't sure about Darnell but he's growing on me.

I haven't seen enough of Rex and Mohammed to make much of a judgement but initial impressions are good.

Everyone seems to be loving Kathraya (including Aisleyne). I like her but she's a bit too out there for me at the moment. She's like a cartoon character which is great for a laugh but I'm not sure how she'll be as a housemate. She reminds me of a celebrity they have on BBLB and BBBM from time to time (can't remember her name but she looks similar, sounds similar and is just as wacky!)

I'm not overly keen on Dennis' over the top antics either but he seems to have calmed down now.

Both Jennifer and Rachel are quite high in my estimation at the moment and not just for their looks - although I must say there's a lot of eye-candy for us guys this year

Watching the streaming it looks as though most of the group have pretty much sussed that Mario and Steph aren't a real couple. Still, finding that out doesn't actually fail the task because the actual task is that they shouldn't find out that Mario and Lisa are a couple and I don't think anyone has got an inkling about that!

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Posted 7/6/2008 10:15 (#29204 - in reply to #29203)
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Julian - 7/6/2008 03:24 Everyone seems to be loving Kathraya (including Aisleyne). I like her but she's a bit too out there for me at the moment. She's like a cartoon character which is great for a laugh but I'm not sure how she'll be as a housemate. She reminds me of a celebrity they have on BBLB and BBBM from time to time (can't remember her name but she looks similar, sounds similar and is just as wacky!)

 

She does remind me of Nancy Lamb but probably even more wacky. Alexandra is nasty piece of work in my opinion, she started to suss the twist which is fair eneough but the things she called Stephanie who is after all only playing a role in the twist was totally uncalled for. She went on and on and on and on as well. Depending on which group is up for eviction I see either Alexandra or Stephanie as being the first to go. I do think this bunch of housemates are a step up from last year though and hopefully we will have a decent series.

 

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Posted 7/6/2008 22:14 (#29211 - in reply to #29174)
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Alexandra got a very good edit tonight.  They should have shown her calling Stephanie a bitch behind her back.  She is very similar to Charley.
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Posted 8/6/2008 00:28 (#29218 - in reply to #29174)
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To mark the launch of BB9, a survey was commissioned of BB's worst ever housemates:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother9/a98007/jade-goody-is-worst-...

A rather predictable list of names there ;-)
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Posted 8/6/2008 01:38 (#29220 - in reply to #29218)
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Most of mine aren't even on the list

I suppose it depends whether you define worst housemate as the least entertaining or the most dislikeable as they are definitely not the same thing.

Makosi was probably one of the best housemates in terms of what she brought to the show but she was absolutely my least favourite housemate as far as how much I disliked her as a person.

Derek from the same year is a close runner-up, for me, followed by Ahmed (BB5) and Alex (BB3).

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Posted 8/6/2008 01:51 (#29221 - in reply to #29211)
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premierscfc - 7/6/2008 22:14

Alexandra got a very good edit tonight.  They should have shown her calling Stephanie a bitch behind her back.  She is very similar to Charley.


I haven't seen that but it wouldn't surprise me.

I'm not really a fan of Steph at the moment. Poor Mario is being very patient with her but she isn't half making things more difficult than they need to be

Still, at this point it's hard to see how they could fail the task. BB were quite clever to misdirect the housemates with one lie in order to hide another one. There are some pretty sharp people this year, it has to be said, but they don't have a clue about the real secret.

I think it's going to make Mario and Lisa's life in the house even more difficult, though. It's natural to see a couple as a threat given the fact that there's a rock solid alliance between them. Making them lie to the group and giving them preferential treatment (in terms of immunity) could easily cause resentment, or at least an easy reason for nomination. If they win immunity this week I can definitely see several of the four being nominated in retaliation the week after. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if Steph and Mario nominated each other as well!

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Posted 8/6/2008 15:52 (#29225 - in reply to #29211)
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premierscfc - 7/6/2008 22:14 Alexandra got a very good edit tonight.  They should have shown her calling Stephanie a bitch behind her back.  She is very similar to Charley.

shes doing my bloody head in so far

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Posted 8/6/2008 16:55 (#29226 - in reply to #29174)
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So BB meddles again and tells the housemates there is a secret couple.  They obviously have there own agends as usual as to who they want to stay and go.  Just as the old BB seemed to be back they go and spoil it.  That's me done with BB9.
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Posted 8/6/2008 18:39 (#29230 - in reply to #29226)
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premierscfc - 8/6/2008 16:55

So BB meddles again and tells the housemates there is a secret couple.  They obviously have there own agends as usual as to who they want to stay and go.  Just as the old BB seemed to be back they go and spoil it.  That's me done with BB9.


If Mario and Steph had been sufficiently convincing, people might have been looking elsewhere for the couple. Plus the group could easily have gone for a pairing with Steph and someone rather than Mario and someone. I think the game was fair and as long as Mario and Lisa don't go I won't be too upset.

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Posted 10/6/2008 00:44 (#29263 - in reply to #29230)
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Just out of interest, the bit from tonight's highlights where Mario, Lisa and Mikey talk about Alex was quite heavily chopped about. From the highlight show it came across as though they were being prudish about Rebecca's skinny dipping etc. but, from what I remember from the live streaming, it wasn't that at all.

The main thing Mikey was upset about was the hypocritical way in which Alex had told Rachel, in an earlier argument, that she obviously hadn't been brought up properly. H considered Rachel to be one of the most inoffensive people in the house whereas, in contrast, Alex's own language during the truth-or-dare was pretty 'blue'. He also disliked the way in which Alex had asked Dale a question during the truth-or-dare as to whether he had liked Lisa's cooking. Mikey considered that a bitchy and calculated snipe at Lisa in her absence.

Another few snippets from the live streaming: Mario asked Lisa if she would want him to leave if she was evicted and vice-versa. He seemed quote willing to do so but Lisa told him that whoever left the other should stick it out. Mario reckons he wouldn't be upset if he went as he'd had a good time up to that point and had no expectations of winning. Lisa also agreed that she never reckoned she could win either. They concluded it would probably be one of them who left although they felt that, since Steph had been so unhelpful in the task, the fairest result would be if she went.

Personally, I'd like to see Steph or Luke go. Mario and Lisa are two of my favourites at the moment.

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Posted 10/6/2008 10:14 (#29265 - in reply to #29174)
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Stephanie may have done enough to save herself last night.  Alexandra (who must have a side bet on beating Sezers %) went off on one last night over burnt oven chips and really laid into Rachel and Rebecca.  Stephanie stood up to Alexandra and told her that she should not speak to people the way she does.  It will be interesting to see what Alexandras sidekicks (Dennis and Sylvia) do now, will they distance themselves from Alexandra or will they go one after the other just like Graces little army did in BB7?  The first time BB does not interfere with the nominations process then Alexandra will be up with probably everyone bar Sylvia and Dennis nominating her and no doubt the public will have her out.
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Posted 10/6/2008 13:02 (#29269 - in reply to #29174)
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For anyone interested here is Darnell's Myspace where you can listen to his music.

http://www.myspace.com/platinumdtheartist

He has more talent than he gives himself credit for. 

 

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Posted 10/6/2008 14:12 (#29270 - in reply to #29174)
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i bet BB dont show all of argument and make alexandra look like she was right grrrrr i hate her

woahh hes a well awseome singer!!



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Posted 10/6/2008 16:45 (#29274 - in reply to #29174)
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Alexandra gets on my nerves i almost teared apart the blanket i had on whilst watching it last night :|
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Posted 10/6/2008 17:22 (#29276 - in reply to #29174)
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she made Micky Cry!
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Posted 11/6/2008 00:01 (#29290 - in reply to #29265)
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premierscfc - 10/6/2008 10:14

Stephanie may have done enough to save herself last night. 


Now that I've seen it, I reckon it will definitely have done her some favours.

I've now changed my mind and would rather Luke went on Friday. I think his conspiracy theories about Mario are a bit suspect, to be honest. People with that suspicious a mind are often not so straight-up themselves

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Posted 11/6/2008 01:14 (#29291 - in reply to #29269)
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premierscfc - 10/6/2008 13:02

For anyone interested here is Darnell's Myspace where you can listen to his music.

http://www.myspace.com/platinumdtheartist

He has more talent than he gives himself credit for.

 

There are some good varied tracks on there.
Someone's obviously keeping it up for him while he's in the house.

I think it will be Mario who is first out.
I liked him to begin with, but I think he has latched on to Mikey too much.

I would like to see how Lisa is without his influence.
She hasn't done much so far, but I quite like her.

 

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Posted 11/6/2008 10:05 (#29293 - in reply to #29291)
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emptybox - 11/6/2008 01:14 I think it will be Mario who is first out.
I liked him to begin with, but I think he has latched on to Mikey too much.

 

I would like to see how Lisa is without his influence.
She hasn't done much so far, but I quite like her.

 

I'm not sure it's a calculated move by Mario to latch onto Mikey and I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. I have a mate who is handicapped and needs a wheelchair. He is a talented athlete though and won a bronze medal at the 100 metres at the Paralympics. However when we would go out to the pub for instance another one of my pals would be too helpful without realising what he was doing (loud voice "coming through" and pushing the chair when there is no need for instance if going to the toilets) without thinking that if he was not there then my mate would still manage without him. He would make a fuss out of opening doors or even little things like making a cup of tea. He has a heart of gold but we call him Florence as in Nightingale. I see a lot of that kind of behaviour in Mario and not so much as plotting to use Mikey as a key to staying in the house. Mind you having said all that, out of the 4 up I still want him out on Friday as he seems to have an opinion on everything and likes the sound of his own voice. The bookies have now made Mario favourite for eviction swapping places with Stephanie.

I was also surprised by Luke in the diary room, he seems quite cold and calculated and I think his nominations will be quite surprising at times during the series. Mind you I don't understand why a 19yo northerner would be a Conservative. He is not to be trusted.

As long as BB does not interfere with nominations then Alex is gone next week and Sezers 91.6% record has a very good chance of being beaten. I can see Alex getting 11 nominations out of the 13 available. Dennis and Sylvia will probably be the ones to go after so the rest of the housemates should be safe enough for the next 3 to 4 weeks.

Kathreya and Darnell are my favourites so far.

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Posted 11/6/2008 13:45 (#29297 - in reply to #29293)
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premierscfc - 11/6/2008 10:05
Mind you having said all that, out of the 4 up I still want him out on Friday as he seems to have an opinion on everything and likes the sound of his own voice. The bookies have now made Mario favourite for eviction swapping places with Stephanie.

I was also surprised by Luke in the diary room, he seems quite cold and calculated and I think his nominations will be quite surprising at times during the series.



I have found a few disturbing things in Mario's behaviour recently. Not enough to make me dislike him but enough to dampen my enthusiasm. He does seem to be quite judgemental at times.

I can also see a plus side in him leaving as I think Lisa would do a lot better without him. Having a partner in the house makes her an automatic target for nomination and is also an impediment to integration with the others.

Steph has grown on me so I'd prefer it to be Luke who leaves but, realistically, the bookies odds don't make that very likely.

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Posted 11/6/2008 15:53 (#29298 - in reply to #29174)
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i like all of the ones up for evictions so im gutted there up. but out of the four..id go with lisa this friday as the others are like have done more and seem more interestin!
i cant stand alex uurgggh shes really annoyin..im glad steph spoke up and bex and rach stook up for them sevles to
my faves so far are katherya luke and steph and mikey there the only ones that havnt annoyed me yet!
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Posted 11/6/2008 22:02 (#29299 - in reply to #29298)
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Thanks for the reports folks. Please keep them coming. I trust your interpretation of events more than I trust Endemol.
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Posted 11/6/2008 22:14 (#29300 - in reply to #29299)
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boldjohn - 11/6/2008 22:02 Thanks for the reports folks. Please keep them coming. I trust your interpretation of events more than I trust Endemol.

To be fair John Endemol have not really made a mess of it yet this year (its only the end of week 1 though).  The live feed seems to have far fewer sound dips than the last few years and when there is a soundip a caption appears on screen explaining why.  The end of the wedding task was not brilliant but I have not seen a blatant hatchet job on anyone yet.  The show has the potential to be a good show so far but its down to Endemol to make sure they don't spoil it.  It's so much better than last years debacle. 

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Posted 13/6/2008 17:30 (#29332 - in reply to #29174)
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Tonights eviction announcement will be from the studio to prevent outside interference from the crowd according to the C4 site.

Big Brother can reveal that Davina will talk to the House from the studio tonight, rather than outside with the crowd. This is to protect the housemates from any outside world information or hints about their popularity. She will still present the rest of the show from the stage outside the House, so it promises to be an exciting and eventful night.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=2001 

 

I hope this a general switch in policy and will remain like this for the rest of the series and not just a way of protecting one individual. 

 

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Posted 13/6/2008 22:05 (#29340 - in reply to #29174)
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Stephanie is the first to go maintaining the 100% record of a female being the first evicted in the summer Big Brother.  Stephanie got 48% of the 4 way vote.  I think tonight just adds weight to Aisleyne's achievement of finishing 3rd as the females of the show do not seem to get treated the same as the males by the viewers who do not use forums.  Mario was a massive favourite to go on the major forums and the bookies also got it wrong in a big way.
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Posted 13/6/2008 22:13 (#29341 - in reply to #29174)
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absolutly pathetic the voting tonight..steph shouldnt have gone..lisa should of..she was most borin!

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Posted 13/6/2008 22:25 (#29342 - in reply to #29174)
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MARIO SHOULD OF GONE!! STEPH IS WELLLLLLLL FIT...

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Posted 13/6/2008 22:30 (#29343 - in reply to #29342)
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soooooooooooo shallow robbie

lisa should have gone..shes BORING!

steph shouldnt have gone she didnt just sit there like lisa!

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Posted 14/6/2008 01:13 (#29350 - in reply to #29343)
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It's funny, at the beginning of the week I wanted Steph to go, then I changed my mind and wanted Luke to go and by Friday I wanted Mario to go and am really gutted that Steph went

I think Mario and Steph both misread each other's personalities, to be honest. Steph thought Mario was a lecherous sleaze who had designs on her and Mario felt Steph was deliberately trying to turn people against him. Neither of which was true, in my opinion.

It just goes to show, you shouldn't be too quick to judge people

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Posted 15/6/2008 16:54 (#29355 - in reply to #29350)
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alex has been ok lately..but i thought she was trying to influence slyvias and dennis nominations last night
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Posted 15/6/2008 17:02 (#29356 - in reply to #29355)
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sophie - 15/6/2008 16:54 alex has been ok lately..

 

It's nominations tomorrow. I suspect normal service will be resumed shortly afterwards. 

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Posted 15/6/2008 17:10 (#29357 - in reply to #29174)
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http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/2008/06/15/im...

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Posted 15/6/2008 17:19 (#29358 - in reply to #29357)
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as much as i dont like alex..i think shes trying her best not to get into arguments like she did yesterday with mo and the food. though it is nominations so we'll soon see
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Posted 16/6/2008 13:12 (#29361 - in reply to #29174)
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i hope Alex goes this week. She is showing her soft side now it comes to nominations!! BUT I AGREE WITH MICKEY! SHE WILL BECOME VERY EVIL SOON!!!
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Posted 16/6/2008 14:39 (#29368 - in reply to #29174)
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the house this year is doing my head in..like dennis is now blaming rachel for being too nice..its like..well you know..dennis doesn't know rachel, shes probably nice all the time, its her personality aint it. gawwwd talk about ideots!
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Posted 16/6/2008 23:50 (#29371 - in reply to #29368)
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sophie - 16/6/2008 14:39

the house this year is doing my head in..like dennis is now blaming rachel for being too nice..its like..well you know..dennis doesn't know rachel, shes probably nice all the time, its her personality aint it. gawwwd talk about ideots!


As it turns out he was complaining that other people were blaming Rachel for being too nice - I'm guessing Alex or Mario.

It was a nice idea by Dennis to suggest that everyone should stop talking behind people's backs and confront them more but, as Aisleyne knows only too well, confronting people doesn't always work out for the best. Sometimes you can resolve your issues but more often than not it just creates a bad atmosphere and upsets people.

Plus, of course, as soon as you tell someone you have a problem with them it's like painting a big target on yourself for them to nominate you

In real life I'm all for talking things out with people, in the BB house you're better off, as Luke says, keeping them for the diary room

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Posted 17/6/2008 00:25 (#29372 - in reply to #29174)
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Wee Luke seems to be coming into his own a bit more now.
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Posted 17/6/2008 18:12 (#29381 - in reply to #29174)
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The usually reliable reverse ferret on DS forums says Alex and Mario are up this week.

Quelle surprise :-)
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Posted 17/6/2008 18:18 (#29382 - in reply to #29381)
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The usually reliable reverse ferret on DS forums says Alex and Mario are up this week.

Quelle surprise :-)


I note that Aisleyne passed on a "rumour" about Alex being up in todays blog. Maybe she met Reverse Ferret when she was judging the Endemol Christmas Decorations and got an inside track on "privileged information"
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Posted 18/6/2008 18:55 (#29398 - in reply to #29174)
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Newsflash!

This week's phone vote has been cancelled.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=2722&posit...

Woss goin' on?



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Posted 18/6/2008 19:00 (#29399 - in reply to #29398)
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ofni - 18/6/2008 18:55 Newsflash! This week's phone vote has been cancelled. http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=2722&p... Woss goin' on?

 

Marios 14 million fans have flooded the switchboard voting for Alex and have caused meltdown.

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Posted 18/6/2008 21:10 (#29402 - in reply to #29174)
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Alex has been ejected from the house.

http://community.channel4.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6910040608/m/78600679001

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=2724&position=26 

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Posted 19/6/2008 19:11 (#29409 - in reply to #29174)
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has digitalspy gone down ?

I haven't been able to access it since last night . just says "not found"

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Posted 19/6/2008 19:26 (#29410 - in reply to #29409)
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kowalski - 19/6/2008 19:11 has digitalspy gone down ? I haven't been able to access it since last night . just says "not found" k

I was browsing digital spy earlier today but can't get on now. 

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Posted 19/6/2008 20:00 (#29411 - in reply to #29174)
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If anyone is having problems getting on to Digital Spy (the C4 forum suggests quite a few people are) try this link.

http://www.forum.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45 

This one works for me.

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Posted 19/6/2008 23:16 (#29412 - in reply to #29174)
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A few days out-of-date and overtaken by events, but just for the record I found this "BB Vox Pop" on MSN Entertainment - some miscellaneous celebs' views on BB9 including quotes from Samanda, Brian Belo and Aisleyne.

I think my favourite snippet is Brian's description of Rex as "a poor man's Ziggy" Hirarious!

http://entertainment.uk.msn.com/tv/realitytv/big-brother/article.as...



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Posted 20/6/2008 10:18 (#29417 - in reply to #29174)
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Heatworld's article about a new HM going in tonight enthuses about two past notable "late entrances". One is Ziggy.

Guess who the other one is.

CLUE: Apply some "out of the box" thinking

http://www.heatworld.com/Article/6115/Big+Brother/New+housemate+TON...
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Posted 20/6/2008 22:22 (#29435 - in reply to #29417)
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dont know if anyone else heard davina say "hes only watched BB twice" about the new housemate. dunno if it was a mistake or a trick like
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Posted 20/6/2008 22:36 (#29436 - in reply to #29174)
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Surprise surprise.  Heat have interviewed Alexandra.  How come the nasty ones get rewarded?
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Posted 20/6/2008 22:44 (#29437 - in reply to #29174)
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looks like heat mag are gonna have a decline in sales this week!
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Posted 20/6/2008 22:49 (#29438 - in reply to #29174)
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She is not sorry neither.  At least Davina did not say she was a great housemate. If she was put in as many reality shows as Jade Goody she would surpass her when it comes to bullying.
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Posted 20/6/2008 22:52 (#29439 - in reply to #29174)
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at some points you could see she was a bit embarassed but shes too stubborn and arrogant to admit she IS bully!
she mentioned friends in seven sisters?! that is where i live,i really do hope i dont bump into her in the street!
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Posted 21/6/2008 15:34 (#29451 - in reply to #29174)
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i actually thought when she was watchin the footage back she was sorry and i thought she would realise..but didnt! grr shes annoyin!
oh man imagine bumpin into her lol you wouldnt know what she would go and do lol
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Posted 23/6/2008 17:54 (#29479 - in reply to #29174)
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Aisleyne recorded a video for the Channel 4 website last Friday when she was in the studio to do BBLB.

http://www.aisleyne.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=2224&posts=16

She gives her views on Mario and his, cough, fanbase and Dale being the sexiest Male.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=3383&position=16

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Posted 23/6/2008 18:16 (#29480 - in reply to #29174)
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Heh heh. agree about that moment when they called Mario to the DR to ahem dampen his ardour

They must have been thinking about the Great British Public and the need to protect them from such sordid scenes...



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Posted 23/6/2008 23:17 (#29481 - in reply to #29174)
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Another accomplished little performance by Aisleyne - very expressive and funny.
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Posted 24/6/2008 14:36 (#29484 - in reply to #29174)
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Given that both BB and Zeppotron are Endomol-connected, wouldn't it be possible to see some "Chav-leyne" inserts put into say, BBBM, just like the ones in the "yoof" Screenwipe?

Unless, of course, she has been re-booked for the new Screenwipe series this Autumn....

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Posted 25/6/2008 21:07 (#29516 - in reply to #29484)
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i want sylvia rebecca and dale out next! honestly there so annyoin. like they cant say anything 2 anyones face..always behind there backs like jen did today with rex..shes so 2 faced. all of her gang are.

my faves are Mo and Rex so far

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Posted 25/6/2008 21:23 (#29517 - in reply to #29516)
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Most of the housemates fall into two categories for me this year. The ones I quite like but have some minor bad points and the ones I quite dislike but have some minor good points.

Sylvia and Dennis are in the dislike category and everyone else, to varying degrees, is in the like category.

The only exceptions are Alex who I disliked with no reservations at all and Rachel who I like with no reservations at all. Which I guess makes Rachel my favourite by default even though BB haven't shown much footage of her

Interestingly, I was reading in New magazine today that Rachel is an old friend of Imogen! She came second to Imogen in Miss Wales 2003 and they've been friends ever since.

According to the New article, Imogen says Rachel's niceness is not an act althoguh she does say that she's very ambitious.

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Posted 26/6/2008 13:50 (#29523 - in reply to #29174)
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ahahha they think Mo is going this week! haha cant wait to see there faces when sly-via goes!( hopefully she will!)
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Posted 27/6/2008 10:03 (#29531 - in reply to #29174)
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Phil Edgar-Jones looks like he is going to be busy again today.  Surely Dennis has to be ejected for what he did to Mohammed.  If he does go tonights eviction should still go ahead as it is too close to the eviction to cancel it for a second time.  It's still early enough to add extra housemates if needs be with 10 weeks still to go.
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Posted 27/6/2008 10:08 (#29532 - in reply to #29174)
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Metro have a pic of Aisleyne and some (unreferenced) quotes from her blog, in a round up of opinions on BB9 from "those in the know" namely Ash, Nikki, Boyd Hilton (Heat) and, for some reason, High King Peter of Narnia!

http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/article.html?in_article_id=193248
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Posted 27/6/2008 10:35 (#29533 - in reply to #29532)
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ofni - 27/6/2008 10:08 Metro have a pic of Aisleyne and some (unreferenced) quotes from her blog, in a round up of opinions on BB9 from "those in the know" namely Ash, Nikki, Boyd Hilton (Heat) and, for some reason, High King Peter of Narnia! http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/article.html?in_article_id=193248

I take it from Nikki's quote that she does not get on with Lea. 

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Posted 27/6/2008 12:50 (#29536 - in reply to #29531)
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premierscfc - 27/6/2008 10:03

Phil Edgar-Jones looks like he is going to be busy again today.  Surely Dennis has to be ejected for what he did to Mohammed.  If he does go tonights eviction should still go ahead as it is too close to the eviction to cancel it for a second time.  It's still early enough to add extra housemates if needs be with 10 weeks still to go.


It's all in palindromes this year, innit?

Last week -

Mario, or I Am.

Last night:

Dennis sinned.

I think some new HMs are a cert, once this present hoohah has settled down.
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Posted 27/6/2008 13:40 (#29539 - in reply to #29174)
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A reliable source has just posted that Dennis is being removed and at the moment tonights eviction goes ahead as planned.
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Posted 27/6/2008 14:45 (#29540 - in reply to #29174)
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Dennis has gone and Sylvia collapsed when it was announced.
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Posted 27/6/2008 19:16 (#29541 - in reply to #29540)
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The eviction looks like being "interesting" tonight.

I think that Aisleyne should put in some overtime and do a special weekend blog - I don't want to have to wait until Monday to read her comments on current developments.
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Posted 27/6/2008 22:01 (#29542 - in reply to #29174)
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Sezers record survives but only just.  Sylvia went with 90.2% of the vote.
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Posted 27/6/2008 22:45 (#29544 - in reply to #29542)
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premierscfc - 27/6/2008 22:01

Sezers record survives but only just.  Sylvia went with 90.2% of the vote.


Isn't that a higher percentage than Grace got, and within a whisker of the Sezer score?
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Posted 27/6/2008 22:48 (#29545 - in reply to #29544)
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ofni - 27/6/2008 22:45
premierscfc - 27/6/2008 22:01 Sezers record survives but only just. Sylvia went with 90.2% of the vote.
Isn't that a higher percentage than Grace got, and within a whisker of the Sezer score?

Yes.  Sezer got 91.6% and I think Grace got 88%. 

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Posted 28/6/2008 00:38 (#29547 - in reply to #29174)
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It doesn't sound like any of this year's HM's are likely to be replacing Aisleyne in Charlie Brooker's affections:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/columnists/story/0,,2287924,00.h...
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Posted 28/6/2008 11:28 (#29548 - in reply to #29547)
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He is right about Mario. He has to stay a while yet just for entertainment value even though he is an idiot.
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Posted 28/6/2008 13:38 (#29551 - in reply to #29533)
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premierscfc - 27/6/2008 10:35

ofni - 27/6/2008 10:08 Metro have a pic of Aisleyne and some (unreferenced) quotes from her blog, in a round up of opinions on BB9 from "those in the know" namely Ash, Nikki, Boyd Hilton (Heat) and, for some reason, High King Peter of Narnia! http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/article.html?in_article_id=193248

I take it from Nikki's quote that she does not get on with Lea. 



well not this week, but who knows what will be the case next week. Bestest mates?
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Posted 28/6/2008 13:40 (#29552 - in reply to #29540)
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Dennis has gone and Sylvia collapsed when it was announced.


understandably, because apparently she later said "my heart has been ripped out, literally". You would collapse too if that happened to you
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Posted 28/6/2008 14:07 (#29553 - in reply to #29174)
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BB9 will never be forgotten as it has had some memorable moments and Sylvia's reaction to the ejection will be one of them.  I would have collapsed (with laughter) if I was not sitting down at the time.
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Posted 28/6/2008 14:49 (#29554 - in reply to #29174)
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cant stand dale! what a t**t! he was only having a go cos of the whole jennifer thing..tryin 2 compete with stu eh!
he was the one who made it worst..it was all ok but then he came along and made it out of hand!
rex and mo still my faves..darnells ok aswell now!
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Posted 28/6/2008 14:59 (#29555 - in reply to #29554)
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sophie - 28/6/2008 14:49

cant stand dale! what a t**t! he was only having a go cos of the whole jennifer thing..tryin 2 compete with stu eh!
he was the one who made it worst..it was all ok but then he came along and made it out of hand!
rex and mo still my faves..darnells ok aswell now!


actually I thought it was down to Dale and Stuart trying to both show how manly they were. The argument as stupid as it was, was basically over and the Drama Queen was getting over it, then the idiot children started
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Posted 28/6/2008 15:09 (#29556 - in reply to #29174)
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dale didnt know exactly was goin on though did he.. he started an argument cos he thinks itll be alright cos "everyone fancies him" so he thinks...rex didnt ruin it..it was hardly different..but "big"man dale had 2 step in and started calling everyone a dick like he usually does. it was funny actually cos dale said he says things 2 peoples faces..haha he doesnt..he bitches behind there backs.

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Posted 28/6/2008 16:58 (#29557 - in reply to #29556)
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If anything, I thought it was Rebecca shouting at Mohammed that tipped the whole thing into anarchy. Dale was primarily incensed by Mohammed taking such a threatening stance with a girl (Rebecca).

Darnell was also at fault for escalating the group into more conflict when what they really needed to do was to calm down.

After listening to some of the conversations yesterday on the live streaming I think Dale and Jennifer both came out of it pretty well but Darnell, Rebecca and Rex have gone down in my estimation.

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Posted 28/6/2008 17:25 (#29558 - in reply to #29557)
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Julian - 28/6/2008 16:58 If anything, I thought it was Rebecca shouting at Mohammed that tipped the whole thing into anarchy. Dale was primarily incensed by Mohammed taking such a threatening stance with a girl (Rebecca). Darnell was also at fault for escalating the group into more conflict when what they really needed to do was to calm down. After listening to some of the conversations yesterday on the live streaming I think Dale and Jennifer both came out of it pretty well but Darnell, Rebecca and Rex have gone down in my estimation. Regards Julian

I think Jennifer came out of all this really bad.  Rex had apologised and she had seemed to have accepted his apology and he even went to his bedroom to get ready for bed.  Dale came into the luxury room and Jens waterworks started again and she turned up the volume as each person came into the room.  

Yesterday afternoon on the live feed click here Darnell exposed Jens hypocrisy when she defends Dale but insists that Darnell should have been ejected for the same behaviour.  Darnell has now become second favourite with the bookmakers on the strength of his reaction to the whole incident.  He went out on a limb and did not seem to care how he would appear to the viewers by speaking his mind.  Tonights highlights show should cement his position as second favourite to Kathreya. 

Jennifer will be evicted the first time the housemates nominate her whoever she is up against. 

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Posted 29/6/2008 14:04 (#29565 - in reply to #29174)
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i thought it was funny when darnell was having a go at jennifer on last nights highlights. he got her spot on. did you see dale just sitting there though? he didnt defend jen, but if it was someone like Mo or rex who had said it, he would have jumped straight in there. i hope mario was right about jen and her gang being up, cos theres enough to get them up!
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Posted 29/6/2008 16:49 (#29567 - in reply to #29565)
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Well I guess it's started then. Every year there seems to come a point when the majority seem to be watching an entirely different show to the one I'm watching. Aisleyne being one example, of course

How anyone can turn that argument and it's repercussions into anti-Jennifer sentiment absolutely escapes me.

I thought it was completely understandable that she would have been so upset by Rex's vandalism and later she was becoming increasingly distressed by all the upset and arguments that kicked off as much as by the original incident.

They were all the worse for drink that night and emotions were running high all round. I thought Darnell's behaviour was disgracefully aggressive, far worse than Dale's and I was very disappointed in Darnell for not apologizing for it until much later. I saw Darnell and Jennifer's confrontation on the live streaming and while his argument about Dale's behaviour being similar was valid it doesn't excuse his own. In fact, I thought it quite wrong when he suggested that only spitting and actual physical violence should be considered aggressive and intimidating when we've all seen people kicked off for behaviour far short of getting physical.

As it was, Jennifer conceded his point that Dale should not have been so hot-headed but was still justified in her point that Darnell's actions were uncharacteristically aggressive and frightening. I thought she acted with a lot of sense and maturity and eloquence in getting her feelings across and in burying the hatchet with everyone.

Darnell was essentially saying that he didn't do anything wrong. He didn't think Dale had done anything wrong either which was his main argument for why he was blameless but, as far as I'm concerned. they were both at fault.

Incidentally, the incident with Dale that Darnell was referring to was the one on the next day when Dale confronted Mohammed and had nothing to do with his behaviour during the previous evening. Dale wasn't anywhere near as agressive as Darnell during that altercation.

Jennifer may have plunged to the bottom of the polls but she went from my 5th favourite to my number one favourite on the strength of recent events. I thought she handled the whole thing with a lot of dignity and maturity and I think the current backlash against her is wholly unjustified.

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Posted 29/6/2008 17:13 (#29568 - in reply to #29174)
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Darnell did not think he was blameless.  When he was called to the diary room he was quite open about how he had reacted badly.  He did not tell Jennifer he had done nothing wrong, He told her he did the same as Dale and quite rightly called Jennifer a hypocrite because she was defending Dale whilst saying Darnell should have been ejected.  Tonights highlights show will show how Jennifer has not buried the hatchet with to quote Sundays BBLB "an eight hour bitching session" with Rebecca and Luke.    Jennifer spends so much time siiting either on her bed or in the bathroom bitching about Rachel, Kathreya and Rex.  She is spoiling the other housemates BB experience with her constant moaning and bitching about people being nice.  As for the painting BB should do a spot the difference competition with a before and after shot.
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Posted 29/6/2008 18:07 (#29569 - in reply to #29568)
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premierscfc - 29/6/2008 17:13

Darnell did not think he was blameless.  When he was called to the diary room he was quite open about how he had reacted badly.  He did not tell Jennifer he had done nothing wrong, He told her he did the same as Dale and quite rightly called Jennifer a hypocrite because she was defending Dale whilst saying Darnell should have been ejected. 


Darnell admitted he had done wrong in the diary room but that was only after he had so many people in the house tell him so. The conversation with Jennifer was before this and at that time, he didn't think he was in the wrong at all. That may not have come across in the highlights but, believe me, he said exactly that during the live streaming. He said that Dale had got in Mohammed's face and that that was ok because Dale had been angry the same as he had been and he said that it was only getting physical or spitting that crosses the line into unacceptable behaviour.

Yes he pointed out that it was hypocritical for Jenny to hold his anger against him when Dale had done the same thing and Jennifer accepted that. However, she was right to call him on his behaviour and it was partly because she did so that he came to the conclusion he did in the diary room.

Don't get me wrong, I still quite like Darnell, but I don't find him to be quite the hero that everyone else seems to lately.

Jennifer spends so much time siiting either on her bed or in the bathroom bitching about Rachel, Kathreya and Rex.  She is spoiling the other housemates BB experience with her constant moaning and bitching about people being nice. 


I think I've said before that pretty much all of the housemates this year have something I don't like about them. Jen's attitude towards Rachel (and Jen's previous choice in friends, for that matter) is the main fly in the ointment with her. Up until now I've not noticed a huge amount of bitchiness but given the heightened feelings recently and her increasing sense of isolation due to the loss of so many friends in such a short time I'm prepared to make allowances. Still, I'll keep an open mind for the time being

As for the painting BB should do a spot the difference competition with a before and after shot.


That's hardly the point, though. The worst thing about being burgled is the sense of violation that it creates regardless of whether anything has actually been taken or damaged. I see this as the same thing. That was a creation of great sentimental value to her that was vandalized as a joke by someone else and the fact that Rex could have thought that it would be funny to do something like that, not to mention the insincerity of his initial apology, points to a serious lack of consideration for other people's feelings. If she's still harbouring resentment I wouldn't blame her in the least.

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Posted 29/6/2008 18:23 (#29570 - in reply to #29174)
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Rex was definitely in the wrong about the painting.  He has to take the rap for that and if it means he gets nominations then so be it, He will have to face the consequences.  Jen did take advantage of the situation though.  She does not like Rex so she milked the situation for all its worth.  She seemed to have accepted Rex's apoplogy but started crying even louder when Dale and Stuart came into the bedroom.

Jens official profile is quite interesting.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/housemates/profile.jsp?housemateId=260 

"Jennifer's also anti-fox hunting, anti-abortion, anti-smoking, anti-fur, and dislikes ladettes and people who spit." 

Looks like she is very selective with how she judges people.  Dennis is supposedly a very nice person and it's a shame he has been ejected.  She adapts her morals to fit in with who she likes and who she does not.  That was Darnell's point.

 

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Posted 29/6/2008 19:53 (#29571 - in reply to #29174)
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i think rex was wrong to do it..but the whole situation was blown out of proportion, it had hardly changed. i think darnell put jen right saying all they do is bitch behind peoples backs..because its all they seem to do.
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Posted 29/6/2008 20:33 (#29572 - in reply to #29570)
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premierscfc - 29/6/2008 18:23

Rex was definitely in the wrong about the painting.  He has to take the rap for that and if it means he gets nominations then so be it, He will have to face the consequences.  Jen did take advantage of the situation though.  She does not like Rex so she milked the situation for all its worth.  She seemed to have accepted Rex's apoplogy but started crying even louder when Dale and Stuart came into the bedroom.

Jens official profile is quite interesting.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/housemates/profile.jsp?housemateId=260 

"Jennifer's also anti-fox hunting, anti-abortion, anti-smoking, anti-fur, and dislikes ladettes and people who spit." 

Looks like she is very selective with how she judges people.  Dennis is supposedly a very nice person and it's a shame he has been ejected.  She adapts her morals to fit in with who she likes and who she does not.  That was Darnell's point.

 



I really don't think she was milking anything. I think she was genuinely upset and the more that people rushed to her defense, the more time she had to think about it and the more Rex tried to brush it under the carpet the more upset she got. Which I think was only natural.

I think her profile shows that she has strong opinions and isn't afraid to voice them which is what we've seen and which I don't have a problem with.

I think it's unfair to expect her to suddenly turn on a close friend just because he did something she doesn't approve of in the heat of the moment. The world isn't that black and white. I agree with four out of Jen's six dislikes, including the anti-spitting thing, but if a close friend or family member suddenly spit on someone in a misguided attempt to protect me I'm not going to suddenly turn round and attack that person or stop caring about what happens to them.

She made it clear that she doesn't condone the spitting and, as far as I can see, I think she has a pretty strong moral compass. It's just that loyalty to her friends happens to be part of that.

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Posted 29/6/2008 20:41 (#29573 - in reply to #29571)
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sophie - 29/6/2008 19:53

i think rex was wrong to do it..but the whole situation was blown out of proportion, it had hardly changed. i think darnell put jen right saying all they do is bitch behind peoples backs..because its all they seem to do.


Bitching is a hard one to judge, though. In that house we've seen that it's pretty much unavoidable. It's healthy to discuss the other housemates with your friends because you need to make decisions about who to nominate and sometimes you need feedback from others to make an informed choice. It's only bitching that involves spiteful or malicious comments or outright lies designed to sway people into getting out the competition that I have a problem with.

Don't forget, Imogen joined in with some pretty nasty bitching about Aisleyne but they're best of friends now...

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Posted 30/6/2008 00:31 (#29574 - in reply to #29573)
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Ok, so after watching tonight's show Rachel is back to being my favourite again. Jennifer's down to about 3rd place and Darnell has drifted down to very near the bottom of my list

Darnell reminds me a bit of Science from BB6. He's very perceptive about what's going on, he's outraged by all the right things but he has no sense of subtlety or tact when it comes to putting that opinion across. At the end of the day it was Rebecca who saw that Katreya was upset and tried to comfort her while Darnell, who was supposedly arguing in Katreya's favour, not only caused the upset in the first place but was also quite insensitive to Katreya's distress

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Posted 30/6/2008 11:00 (#29575 - in reply to #29174)
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Rachel is also my favourite housemate and has the potential to be my second favourite of all BBs. She can't win even though I would love her to, that's just how things are in BB. I also see similarities between Darnell and Science who I also liked. Darnell does examine his own behaviour though. What I do like about Darnell is that he does not run from one gang to tell that the others are bitching, he tells the ones who are bitching that they are bitching to their face. After Kat got upset Saturday night (Sundays highlights) he sat alone in B Block pondering events and the effects his behaviour may be having on the reat of the house.

The argument that upset Kat was 100% Beccys fault though. Darnell and Kat were having a friendly chat when Beccy came storming in the bedroom looking for an argument. Saturdays live feed showed Jen and Beccy bitching for hours about Rachel and Kathreya being happy all the time and then started bitching about Rex when he baked some cookies for Kathreya. Beccy went out of her way to pick a fight with Rex and he would not bite and walked away. Beccy was out of her depth with Rachel (the highlights show did not do Rachel justice) so Beccy turned her attention to Darnell. Beccy had been ranting and raving in the bathroom and the luxury bedroom about Kathreya doing her head in with her happy house song and being happy all the time yet she went into B block all guns blazing wanting to know who had said she was saying that Kathreya was doing her head in. It had nothing to do with Darnell, it was just Beccy looking for a row and Darnell bit instead of blanking her.

Saturdays live feed showed Jen and Luke filling Beccys head with hate for Rachel, Kat and Rex. Beccy then went full steam looking for an argument. Even Stuart came into the bedroom and told Jen, Beccy and Dale that it could look bad laying on the bed for ages bitching about the others and that the others all knew what they were doing. I am looking forward to todays nominations and think Jennifer or Rebecca (maybe both) will be up alongside Rex for eviction with one of the girls (Jennifer if she is up) going on Friday.

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Posted 30/6/2008 12:47 (#29576 - in reply to #29575)
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Thanks for that. I've got the live feed on series/link now so I'll see if I recorded anything interesting from the weekend

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Posted 30/6/2008 15:31 (#29580 - in reply to #29174)
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Two Youtube clips I found to demonstrate two ways to approach emotional upset. First is Aisleyne, second is Jennifer. Compare and contrast.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TqdUIHt3s2k&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1o5mtS-c-yY&feature=related

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Posted 30/6/2008 15:37 (#29581 - in reply to #29174)
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i hope its jen and rex up cos then rex will stay and hopefully the rest of jens "gang" will realise that Mo didnt stay because slyvia was hated for other reasons..well she was..but Mo is liked and there not!
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Posted 1/7/2008 01:03 (#29583 - in reply to #29580)
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secrethousemate - 30/6/2008 15:31

Two Youtube clips I found to demonstrate two ways to approach emotional upset. First is Aisleyne, second is Jennifer. Compare and contrast.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TqdUIHt3s2k&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1o5mtS-c-yY&feature=related



All I see is history repeating.

There were a lot of people who didn't believe Aisleyne was sincere over that incident. It was the start of the real anti-Aisleyne backlash and the Fake label and it was primarily down to the fact that they couldn't see why Ash would have been so upset over what they considered to be something trivial.

I think Jennifer is being tarred with the same brush here. People are sceptical of the seriousness of the painting incident and, therefore, don't believe that she would have been as upset as she appeared.

I'm not in any way comparing Jen to Aisleyne and I'm certainly not a fan of Jennifer's negativity lately but I completely disagree with the notion that she was milking the situation or being anything other than genuinely upset and, I think she had every right to be upset.

If your point is that Aisleyne hid herself away rather than sit with everyone flocking round her that was an entirely different situation. Aisleyne didn't want to spoil the new housemates' first night in the house and so wanted to be alone to spare them the negativity. Jennifer's situation was entirely different. I don't see anything wrong with her behaviour that niight. Rex, Dale, Stuart, Rebecca, Mohammed, Dennis and Darnell were all to blame in one way or another but for some reason everyone's decided Jennifer was the most at fault

I couldn't disagree more.

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Posted 1/7/2008 11:54 (#29585 - in reply to #29174)
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Sources suggest (a more reliable one than the newspapers) that the viewers will get what they want this week when nomination results are announced.  I think Sezer could be a happy bunny on Friday night as his % record has a good chance of being beaten.  It's Jen v Rex and no doubt we will have to witness plenty of bitching and some nasty behaviour towards Rex between now and Friday but Friday night should make it all worthwhile watching Jen get her comeuppance.
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Posted 1/7/2008 12:03 (#29586 - in reply to #29174)
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She'd better have some nice boots, so that Davina can ask her about them rather than her conduct.
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Posted 1/7/2008 15:14 (#29592 - in reply to #29585)
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Sources suggest (a more reliable one than the newspapers) that the viewers will get what they want this week when nomination results are announced.  I think Sezer could be a happy bunny on Friday night as his % record has a good chance of being beaten.  It's Jen v Rex and no doubt we will have to witness plenty of bitching and some nasty behaviour towards Rex between now and Friday but Friday night should make it all worthwhile watching Jen get her comeuppance.


Sezer shouldnt get that happy if he thinks about it. Lets not forget he was against 2 others rather than just one. And neither of the ones he was against was that popular
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Posted 1/7/2008 15:36 (#29594 - in reply to #29592)
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bradley27 - 1/7/2008 15:14
premierscfc - 1/7/2008 11:54 Sources suggest (a more reliable one than the newspapers) that the viewers will get what they want this week when nomination results are announced. I think Sezer could be a happy bunny on Friday night as his % record has a good chance of being beaten. It's Jen v Rex and no doubt we will have to witness plenty of bitching and some nasty behaviour towards Rex between now and Friday but Friday night should make it all worthwhile watching Jen get her comeuppance.
Sezer shouldnt get that happy if he thinks about it. Lets not forget he was against 2 others rather than just one. And neither of the ones he was against was that popular

Sezers eviction will always be special as you say because he was in a 3 way rather than a straight eviction but if Jen gets more than 91.6% then it will be her name in the record books.  Jen has just said on the live feed that if she is nominated for eviction she will remove her seal costume and fail the shopping task because it smells.  Shame it's not possible to get 101%.

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Posted 1/7/2008 17:07 (#29596 - in reply to #29594)
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Jen has just said on the live feed that if she is nominated for eviction she will remove her seal costume and fail the shopping task because it smells.  Shame it's not possible to get 101%.


Yes, I heard that too. Not impressed with that attitude I have to admit

It's more than the fact that it smells, though, to be fair. It's also wet, cold and clammy and, apparently, in danger of exacerbating her eczma

She's actually been talking about walking so it wouldn't surprise me if the reason she's contemplating chucking in the task if she's nominated is in an effort to ensure that she leaves!

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Posted 1/7/2008 17:52 (#29597 - in reply to #29174)
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aww man i hate her so much l (jen) and rebecca..both are pathetic losers and yesterday was a joke..sitting there oh its boring there all boring..yet they were having fun..then call dale a p***k.. i think it was.. for joining in with the fun.. grrr jen and rebecca do my nut in!
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Posted 1/7/2008 20:29 (#29599 - in reply to #29174)
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On the Live feed Rex has just said he his really happy and can't wait to go on Friday.  Looks like everyone is going to be upset on Friday then (apart from the viewers)
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Posted 1/7/2008 21:06 (#29600 - in reply to #29599)
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On the Live feed Rex has just said he his really happy and can't wait to go on Friday.  Looks like everyone is going to be upset on Friday then (apart from the viewers)


Never mind whether Jennifer tops Sezer's percentage vote, d'ye think Rex'll break Aisleyne's jaw-dropping record when the result is announced?
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Posted 1/7/2008 21:29 (#29601 - in reply to #29600)
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ofni - 1/7/2008 21:06
premierscfc - 1/7/2008 20:29 On the Live feed Rex has just said he his really happy and can't wait to go on Friday. Looks like everyone is going to be upset on Friday then (apart from the viewers)
Never mind whether Jennifer tops Sezer's percentage vote, d'ye think Rex'll break Aisleyne's jaw-dropping record when the result is announced?
 

Luke and Beccy will win the Jaw dropping record.  Apart from the obvious weeks in BB7 and Maxwell/Science in BB6 this is for me the most anticipated eviction in all the BBs.  They all realise that it will give an indication of how they are coming across to the public.  Friday nights live feed after the eviction will be unmissable.

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Posted 2/7/2008 00:07 (#29614 - in reply to #29576)
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Julian - 30/6/2008 12:47

Thanks for that. I've got the live feed on series/link now so I'll see if I recorded anything interesting from the weekend


I watched a bit back from Saturday night and saw Darnell chatting with Katreya after the incident with Rebecca that drove Kat to tears. He was basically saying that he had been in the wrong to have brought the other groups' bitching up in front of Katreya and that, in fact, they were actually doing the right thing by discussion their feelings with each other rather than confronting Katreya with it. He's now worried he'll end up being a hate figure on the streets of London

His heavy-handed attitude sometimes was the only thing holding me back from really warming to Darnell but, after hearing that conversation, he's definitely won me over

As for Jennifer, I can understand some of the criticism sent her way but I really think people are going a bit overboard. Compared to people like Alex and Sylvia (or Sezer for that matter) I really don't see what she's done that's so bad?

She's moans a lot, she's overly suspicious of a couple of people who I really like and she spends a lot of time complaining about them but none of it seems particularly malicious or self-serving.

Rebecca on the other hand has shown herself to be malicious, aggressive and selfish, particularly with the belt incident. Rex was way out of line defacing Jen's painting and several people find him controlling and arrogant, Mohammed is incredibly selfish (the food, tobacco, cleaning) and Luke has done far more stirring and manipulating than Jennifer ever has.

I'm not sure who I want to go between Rex and Jennifer at this point but I think he's done far worse in that house in terms of willful disrespect for other people's feelings than Jennifer has. Her main problem, IMO, is that she's just an incredibly bad judge of character

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Posted 2/7/2008 01:02 (#29615 - in reply to #29594)
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bradley27 - 1/7/2008 15:14
premierscfc - 1/7/2008 11:54 Sources suggest (a more reliable one than the newspapers) that the viewers will get what they want this week when nomination results are announced. I think Sezer could be a happy bunny on Friday night as his % record has a good chance of being beaten. It's Jen v Rex and no doubt we will have to witness plenty of bitching and some nasty behaviour towards Rex between now and Friday but Friday night should make it all worthwhile watching Jen get her comeuppance.
Sezer shouldnt get that happy if he thinks about it. Lets not forget he was against 2 others rather than just one. And neither of the ones he was against was that popular

Sezers eviction will always be special as you say because he was in a 3 way rather than a straight eviction but if Jen gets more than 91.6% then it will be her name in the record books.  Jen has just said on the live feed that if she is nominated for eviction she will remove her seal costume and fail the shopping task because it smells.  Shame it's not possible to get 101%.



it must be as I always hear people talking about "giving 150%".......
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Posted 2/7/2008 13:08 (#29623 - in reply to #29174)
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Grace Dents blog has been updated.  It looks like she does not like Jen.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=4803&position=28 

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Posted 2/7/2008 14:58 (#29627 - in reply to #29623)
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Grace Dents blog has been updated.  It looks like she does not like Jen.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=4803&position=28 



obviously given the go ahead to do so
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Posted 3/7/2008 14:17 (#29641 - in reply to #29174)
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Unless I'm out-of-date on Ziggy's "representation" it would appear that Stephanie has been signed up by the cockatoo-headed one?

http://www.heatworld.com/Article/6293/Ziggy+and+Steph+D...

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ofni - 3/7/2008 14:17 Unless I'm out-of-date on Ziggy's "representation" it would appear that Stephanie has been signed up by the cockatoo-headed one? http://www.heatworld.com/Article/6293/Ziggy+and+Steph+DENY+that+the...

She has so I would take any talk of romance between Stephanie and Ziggy with a huge pinch of salt. 

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Posted 3/7/2008 15:45 (#29643 - in reply to #29641)
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Unless I'm out-of-date on Ziggy's "representation" it would appear that Stephanie has been signed up by the cockatoo-headed one?

http://www.heatworld.com/Article/6293/Ziggy+and+Steph+DENY+that+the...



He's done wonders for Ziggy's 'career' hasn't he?
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Posted 4/7/2008 00:42 (#29650 - in reply to #29643)
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I was watching BBBM yesterday and there was a lot of talk about housemates 'being themselves'. I've never understood why housemates and their fans think that 'being themselves' is some kind of ultimate goal in it's own right. It depends entirely on who those 'selves' actually are!

In any case, I actually believe that everyone in the house is currently being themselves, with the possible exception of Luke. We all show different facets of our personality depending on the situation but that doesn't mean that we're being fake. I might burst into spontaneous song while visting my parents' house but I'd never do it at work

I also think the 'nice' people are being unfairly tarnished as boring just because the editors prefer to show the conflicts more than the fun. Tonight being a case in point. They don't focus on the hilariously funny bum-fighting game invented by Kat, they focus on the argument that happened during it. They don't show the engagingly cute sight of Kat and Rachel navigating the house in the push-me-pull-you outfit but they instead show a rather static shot of them making rice so that they can show Luke's disdainful comment.

I'm currently voting to evict Rex as I think the show will be much more interesting if Jen stays. Not just because it keeps the cliques alive and the love triangle going but because I think there's a lot more character progression to come from Jennifer. I think she could learn a lot by staying in, whereas we've seen all we're going to see of Rex who clearly doesn't want to be there any more.

I noticed Darnell pushing his opinions down people's throats again. I know he means well and the opinion isn't entirely without merit but there was just no need for such negativity about their reaction to Mikey's punch bag antics. Cheering Mikey made Mikey feel good and made them feel good so where's the down side?

Right now I want Rachel to win. She's a sweet, caring, fun-loving girl whose a lot stronger and more sensible than her accomplice in positivity, Kathreya. The other side might call her a fence-sitter but I notice she wasn't shy in voicing her opinion that they should keep their opinions to themselves and she sussed out Luke long before anyone else

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Posted 4/7/2008 08:38 (#29651 - in reply to #29174)
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Current indications are that BB9 may soon get even more interesting.
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Posted 4/7/2008 10:26 (#29652 - in reply to #29650)
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Julian - 4/7/2008 00:42 I was watching BBBM yesterday and there was a lot of talk about housemates 'being themselves'. I've never understood why housemates and their fans think that 'being themselves' is some kind of ultimate goal in it's own right. It depends entirely on who those 'selves' actually are! In any case, I actually believe that everyone in the house is currently being themselves, with the possible exception of Luke. We all show different facets of our personality depending on the situation but that doesn't mean that we're being fake. I might burst into spontaneous song while visting my parents' house but I'd never do it at work I also think the 'nice' people are being unfairly tarnished as boring just because the editors prefer to show the conflicts more than the fun. Tonight being a case in point. They don't focus on the hilariously funny bum-fighting game invented by Kat, they focus on the argument that happened during it. They don't show the engagingly cute sight of Kat and Rachel navigating the house in the push-me-pull-you outfit but they instead show a rather static shot of them making rice so that they can show Luke's disdainful comment. I'm currently voting to evict Rex as I think the show will be much more interesting if Jen stays. Not just because it keeps the cliques alive and the love triangle going but because I think there's a lot more character progression to come from Jennifer. I think she could learn a lot by staying in, whereas we've seen all we're going to see of Rex who clearly doesn't want to be there any more. I noticed Darnell pushing his opinions down people's throats again. I know he means well and the opinion isn't entirely without merit but there was just no need for such negativity about their reaction to Mikey's punch bag antics. Cheering Mikey made Mikey feel good and made them feel good so where's the down side? Right now I want Rachel to win. She's a sweet, caring, fun-loving girl whose a lot stronger and more sensible than her accomplice in positivity, Kathreya. The other side might call her a fence-sitter but I notice she wasn't shy in voicing her opinion that they should keep their opinions to themselves and she sussed out Luke long before anyone else Regards Julian

The show has been on 4 weeks now and I don't think it's possible to act for so long so what you see on screen is the true character of the housemates. Rachel is a nice person, Kathreya is a sensitive person.  Is British society so bad that people can not see this and think it's impossible to be a nice or sensitive person?  I think Kathreya thinks that Rex is going and does not like the prospect of losing one of her friends and having to put up with the nasty gang.  Fortunately for her she has nothing to worry about.

I think Luke is being himself.  It would be a strange gameplan otherwise if he was pretending to be a vindictive bitch who tells bare faced lies behind peoples backs.  He had the "Glyn Wise" effect for the first week or so and was seen as the naive young man who may go on a "Journey".  For a lot of people that has gone now and more and more are seeing him for what he is and are getting fed up with him just like they did with Nikki in BB7. 

Tonight I want Jen out.  I don't go along with why are all the entertaining characters being evicted when it comes to Jen.  I don't find her entertaining in any way.  Her unfinished sentence conversations with Dale are so dull.  The only other thing she does is moan and bitch about Rex, Rachel and Kathreya.  Jen has had decent edits the last 2 nights on the highlight shows.  She spends ages winding Beccy up loading the bullets and then sits back watching Beccy self destruct.  I would much rather watch what the nice housemates are doing rather than what Jen is doing.

I find the way that the housemates treat Mikey a bit uncomfirtable at times.  Darnell had a point that they were treating Mikey like a circus act.  I have Muscular Dystrophy and have to use a wheelchair to get around.  I know first hand what it's like first hand to be patronised by well meaning people.  I am quite capable of looking after myself and don't need a round of applause when I do something.  Did the housemates cheer when Stuart hit the punchball?  They should treat Mikey as an equal and with the same respect they have for the others.  Darnell's only problem is the way he gets his point accross, He is not the most tactfull of people.  He is right in what he says but is a bit like a bull in a china shop.

Rachel and Darnell are my 2 favourites by quite a distance this year.  Rachel really is a nice person and the longer she is in the house the better as far as I am concerned.  I do feel Darnell is a winner though.  He shows that you don't have to join a group or be a fence sitter.  He manages to mix with everyone  and is also not prepared to surpress is feelings if he feels he sees someone doing the wrong thing.  If he see what he believes to be an injustice he lets people know about it and does not worry about making himself unpopular if they don't like what he has to say.  He will pick up nominations because of this but the public decide who leaves and not the housemates.  I think he has a good chance of winning. 

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Sky's TV news website have a feature on "Who's Joining the BB House? " with the current rumours/leaks about three new female HMs tonight. This is accompanied by a gallery of BB babes of times present and past, plus a poll of some of them for "hottest Big Brother girl yet" - candidates are Aisleyne, Chanelle, Jennifer ( ?) , Michelle Bass and Imogen, who is currently leading followed by Chanelle then Aisleyne.

http://tv.sky.com/whos-joining-the-bb-house



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Posted 4/7/2008 13:30 (#29656 - in reply to #29174)
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OMG! how 2 faced was luke last night talkin about kat! slagging her off..she walks in..starts talking to her nicely..as soon as shes out the room..hes bitching about her again with jen!
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Posted 4/7/2008 13:40 (#29657 - in reply to #29656)
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I think Luke is being himself. It would be a strange gameplan otherwise if he was pretending to be a vindictive bitch who tells bare faced lies behind peoples backs.


By not himself I mean that he seems to be constantly performing. Not that I have a problem with that aspect of him since I like the performance but it's like he's in constant comedian/presenter mode! I've made allowances for his underhanded behaviour and negative opinions for some time because of his entertainment value but it's getting to the point where I can't keep making allowances

Darnell's only problem is the way he gets his point accross, He is not the most tactfull of people. He is right in what he says but is a bit like a bull in a china shop.


He's still in my top three but his lack of people skills is why he's not my favourite right now. He's sad that he can't call anyone a close friend in the house but I think it's largely self-inflicted. I wouldn't be overly upset if he won, though.

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Jennifer has been evicted with 89.7% of the vote.  It's not her fault though according to her.  It was the people who she was friends with fault because they were bitching.
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Posted 4/7/2008 23:08 (#29665 - in reply to #29174)
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Davina is awful tonight.  She gave Suzie (BB7) and Kara Louise (BB8) a harder time than she is giving Jen.  Seems like the nicer you are the worse Davina treats you.  One sentence tonight about one of the most controversial incidents in the history of BB.
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ofni - 4/7/2008 08:38

Current indications are that BB9 may soon get even more interesting.

And here's Maysoon, Belinda and Sara

http://photo.wenn.com/index.php?ref=big%20brother%20new%20

 

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Posted 5/7/2008 01:34 (#29669 - in reply to #29665)
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I didn't see anything wrong with Davina's interview. I thought Jen came across very well. There's not a lot Davina can do when the housemate just agrees with all her criticism

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Posted 6/7/2008 23:30 (#29688 - in reply to #29669)
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I really like Sara, not sure about Maysoon but she seems ok.

I'm not warming to Belinda, to be honest. She reminds me of Jayne from BB7: a bolshy, larger than life woman who has clearly watched the show avidly and is using her outside knowledge to try to garner favour with the viewers.

Picking Rachel first for the punching task, as mentioned on BBLB, was almost certainly because Rachel is popular on the outside. Then telling Mario she wants Darnell to win

I guess it's a bit early to judge but I'm not keen

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Posted 7/7/2008 10:12 (#29690 - in reply to #29174)
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I think Belinda will be a 2 week wonder.  She may be a bit of fun for a short time but will soon get on peoples nerves.  She has already dropped not so subtle hints as to how certain housemates are seen by the viewers.  I think we will all be glad to see the back of her when she goes.
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ofni - 3/7/2008 14:17

Unless I'm out-of-date on Ziggy's "representation" it would appear that Stephanie has been signed up by the cockatoo-headed one?

http://www.heatworld.com/Article/6293/Ziggy+and+Steph+DENY+that+the...

 

He's done wonders for Ziggy's 'career' hasn't he?

 

HE SAYS he made him £750,000? Collect a good few pinches of salt before clicking link: to see what our Aussie friend has to say about BBHMs and fame/money

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=5801

 

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Posted 7/7/2008 22:15 (#29701 - in reply to #29698)
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ofni - 7/7/2008 21:35

secrethousemate - 3/7/2008 15:45

ofni - 3/7/2008 14:17

Unless I'm out-of-date on Ziggy's "representation" it would appear that Stephanie has been signed up by the cockatoo-headed one?

http://www.heatworld.com/Article/6293/Ziggy+and+Steph+DENY+that+the...

 

He's done wonders for Ziggy's 'career' hasn't he?

 

HE SAYS he made him £750,000? Collect a good few pinches of salt before clicking link: to see what our Aussie friend has to say about BBHMs and fame/money

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=5801

 

 

I wonder if the taxman has seen the article.

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Never mind the taxman, given the 12-month shelf-life DL talks about, i wonder if Mr Lichman has read it? Be afraid, Ziggy, be very afraid.....
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Posted 8/7/2008 13:40 (#29708 - in reply to #29174)
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Tabloids reporting its Mario v Rebecca for the chop this week. Most polls already show Mario streaking ahead. Will it be the end for the Great Bullshiner?

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Posted 8/7/2008 13:50 (#29709 - in reply to #29708)
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secrethousemate - 8/7/2008 13:40 Tabloids reporting its Mario v Rebecca for the chop this week. Most polls already show Mario streaking ahead. Will it be the end for the Great Bullshiner?

I hope he goes.  The novelty of listening to his bullshine has worn off now.  His latest one is that he was a magistrate.  Is there anything this bloke has not done? 

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Posted 8/7/2008 13:51 (#29710 - in reply to #29708)
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Tabloids reporting its Mario v Rebecca for the chop this week. Most polls already show Mario streaking ahead. Will it be the end for the Great Bullshiner?



I only noticed this morning that Rebecca'a surname is - Shiner!!

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Posted 9/7/2008 23:03 (#29752 - in reply to #29174)
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Did you see Luke's face on hearing that Mario and Bex were up for eviction?

He looked like like someone who'd forgotten to buy the syndicate's lottery ticket, and the numbers had just come up for the jackpot!
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I used to quite like Mario but he's been sinking rapidly in my estimation recently. I was still in two minds given that Rebecca is also one of my least liked housemates but after tonight's show I'm convinced - he has to go

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Posted 11/7/2008 22:00 (#29777 - in reply to #29174)
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Mario has been evicted with 77% of the vote.  Hopefully the girls will relax now and enjoy their BB experience.
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Posted 11/7/2008 22:23 (#29778 - in reply to #29174)
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Aisleyne's blog definitely clinched it. Given Mario's fanbase I reckon that means she must have about 29 milllion readers.
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Posted 12/7/2008 22:44 (#29782 - in reply to #29778)
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Nice to see them show a bit more of Rachel this evening. I've been watching a lot of Rachel's late night chats on the live streaming recently (including the conversation they showed with Lisa) and I'm loving her more and more

I really respected the way she wouldn't be drawn over her talk with Lisa too. It reminded me of Aisleyne's steadfast refusal to betray a confidence. Luke could learn a thing or two from her, that's for sure

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Posted 12/7/2008 23:06 (#29783 - in reply to #29782)
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Julian - 12/7/2008 22:44 Nice to see them show a bit more of Rachel this evening. I've been watching a lot of Rachel's late night chats on the live streaming recently (including the conversation they showed with Lisa) and I'm loving her more and more I really respected the way she wouldn't be drawn over her talk with Lisa too. It reminded me of Aisleyne's steadfast refusal to betray a confidence. Luke could learn a thing or two from her, that's for sure Regards Julian

Hi Julian.
Rachel is my favourite this year as well, though to be honest I'm only half paying attention to it compared to some previous years.

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Posted 12/7/2008 23:28 (#29784 - in reply to #29174)
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One of the reasons I like to see the housemates who bitch in the name of entertainment evicted asap is so that we get a chance to see the other housemates.  Rachel has always been a nice person and is not guilty of being a fence sitter.  She was one of only 2 people (Stephanie was the other) who stood up to Alex yet the others were not accused of fence sitting when they sat there quietly.  This week she was obviously shocked to find out that Shaun and Lisa were part of the whisper club but she went to sort it one on one with Lisa and also told Rex it was none of his business.

I'm not sure she can win but we should see her for a few more weeks yet. 

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One of the reasons I like to see the housemates who bitch in the name of entertainment evicted asap is so that we get a chance to see the other housemates.  Rachel has always been a nice person and is not guilty of being a fence sitter.  She was one of only 2 people (Stephanie was the other) who stood up to Alex yet the others were not accused of fence sitting when they sat there quietly.  This week she was obviously shocked to find out that Shaun and Lisa were part of the whisper club but she went to sort it one on one with Lisa and also told Rex it was none of his business.

I'm not sure she can win but we should see her for a few more weeks yet. 



Rex also stood up to Alex as well dont forget
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Aw, bradley, when i saw your name on the thread i thought for a moment that Rachel had achieved the ultimate miracle, and become the first HM since Ash herself to get a consensus of approval between Julian, prem and you!

i should have known better

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Aw, bradley, when i saw your name on the thread i thought for a moment that Rachel had achieved the ultimate miracle, and become the first HM since Ash herself to get a consensus of approval between Julian, prem and you!

i should have known better


I like Rachel as well, I was merely pointing out it wasnt just Steph and Rachel, but Rex as well
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Posted 15/7/2008 09:21 (#29803 - in reply to #29174)
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Tabloids reporting a Rex v Belinda eviction battle this week. Jazz singing snorer Belinda looking very likely to leave after a brief stay.

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Posted 16/7/2008 20:13 (#29846 - in reply to #29174)
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This analysis by Betfair predicts a Belinda departure, with a mention of Aisleyne along the way.

http://betting.betfair.com/specials/bigbrother08/big-brother-9-bett...

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Posted 16/7/2008 20:32 (#29847 - in reply to #29174)
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Rex is trying his best to get evicted though.  He is going to look bad on the highlights because he has not done anything good on the live feed. He is just being rude and obnoxious to everyone including housemates on the heaven side.  I don't mind him telling Luke, Mikey and Beccy what he thinks of them but even Mo, Dale and Rachel have been on the receiving end. 

Belinda will almost certainly go on Friday though as rationality goes out of the window when it comes to the eviction votes. 

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Posted 16/7/2008 21:20 (#29848 - in reply to #29846)
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This analysis by Betfair predicts a Belinda departure, with a mention of Aisleyne along the way.

http://betting.betfair.com/specials/bigbrother08/big-brother-9-bett...



That was a nice mention, but Ash was and is more than just a pretty face.
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Posted 16/7/2008 22:58 (#29851 - in reply to #29174)
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Did you hear Rex in the Diary Room on the HLs just then?

He said "I'm getting to KNOW MYSELF"

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Posted 17/7/2008 14:50 (#29862 - in reply to #29174)
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I don't think I have seen a series with so many unlikeable housemates as this series.  Every series has people I don't like but this one has so many.  Alex, Sylvia, Dennis, Luke, Mikey and Rebecca are dreadful people .  Luke and Mikey are probably two of the least likeable of any series.  Mikey is the most selfish housemate of all time when it comes to shopping on the basic budget.  He wants Chocolate, Custard creams and fruit and fibre cereal just for him when they only have £7 a week each and have to buy hot water as well.  Hopefully the heaven housemates are on the same wavelength when it comes to nominations and there is a housemate from hell up each week.
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Posted 17/7/2008 16:39 (#29866 - in reply to #29862)
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premierscfc - 17/7/2008 14:50

I don't think I have seen a series with so many unlikeable housemates as this series.  Every series has people I don't like but this one has so many.  Alex, Sylvia, Dennis, Luke, Mikey and Rebecca are dreadful people .  Luke and Mikey are probably two of the least likeable of any series.  Mikey is the most selfish housemate of all time when it comes to shopping on the basic budget.  He wants Chocolate, Custard creams and fruit and fibre cereal just for him when they only have £7 a week each and have to buy hot water as well.  Hopefully the heaven housemates are on the same wavelength when it comes to nominations and there is a housemate from hell up each week.


I'm no great fan of Mikey, Rebecca and Luke but, keeping things in perspective, I don't think they're faults are that abhorrent in the great scheme of things. I do get annoyed to see Mikey and Luke so high in the betting odds, though.

I can understand why they might be upset with Darnell because they had a conversation before he went in to buy the shopping about how some of them would prefer to sacrifice eggs in return for chocolate and Darnell then promptly ignored them and got eggs anyway! The idea was that they could make cakes with them but all the flour he got was the non-self-raising kind which wouldn't work for cakes anyway! Plus he couldn't find the potatoes on the list so a pretty basic staple was missing.

Having said that, I was quite angry with Mikey, today. Considering how much Rachel loves Mikey and is always looking out for him it just seemed incredibly ungrateful for him to go on a rant about her just because Darnell seemed to be showing favouritism by buying cornflakes for her. It wasn't Rachel's fault, so why hold it against her? As it happens, Rachel is losing out the most from the shopping because mostly she just eats fruit and vegetables and doesn't like tuna or eggs whereas Darnell managed to miss out the fruit and veg and stocked up on tons of tuna and eggs!

Rachel, said it was ok though. She said she hadn't come to BB to complain about the food and was quite happy to put up with whatever she got. Meanwhilst, the hell housemates were getting increasingly worked up which should, I suppose, guarantee them a bit more time on the highlight shows

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Posted 17/7/2008 16:53 (#29867 - in reply to #29532)
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ofni - 27/6/2008 10:08

Metro have a pic of Aisleyne and some (unreferenced) quotes from her blog, in a round up of opinions on BB9 from "those in the know" namely Ash, Nikki, Boyd Hilton (Heat) and, for some reason, High King Peter of Narnia!

http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/article.html?in_article_id=193248


Metro again have a pic of and comments from Aisleyne in their celeb "vox pop" round-up of views on current events on BB9 - along with opinions from Samanda, Gwenno Saunders ( who she? ) and Brian Belo.

http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/article.html?in_article_id=223317



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Posted 17/7/2008 17:41 (#29871 - in reply to #29174)
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It's just the general attitude of the housemates from hell.  They spend a large part of everyday moaning and bitching and do very little else.  At times there is very little to do but this afternoon the heavenly housemates made up there own game with a rubber glove full of water and had fun.  They even asked if the housemates from hell would like to join in but they refused preferring to hide in the bedroom bitching.  There just seems to be so much more constant bitching and as one gets evicted there seems to be another one ready to take their place.  Maybe it will stop if Luke goes as he seems to be involved in the bitching all the time. 

The basic budget will always cause problems but as some housemates decide to get on with it the housemates from hell just moan.  Mikey is quite happy to eat egg fried rice but he does not want to buy eggs for instance.  Mikey is quite selfish and wants chocolate, fruit and fibre and custard creams but still expects to be fed for a week.  His chocolate and custard creams come to £2.40 so it will probably be about £4 of his budget by the time he has cereal.  By the time he has contributed to the hot water he has little left to eat.  Luke just gets his wooden spoon out and just winds Mikey up into moaning and making things worse. 

Lisa is not in a position to moan about the budget as she has messed it up even when there was a luxury week.  They overspent by nearly £90 and all the stuff Kathreya asked for was not delivered as it was at the bottom of the list.  Jennifer found that funny showing her nasty side by laughing at that.  They got their fake tan though. 

It's not all bad news though.  I am enjoying this series and think it's a lot better than last year despite the number of housemates that I dislike.  Maybe thats because there are housemates I do like.  Rachel, Darnell and kat are in my opinion good housemates.  I quite like Mo and Rex although Rex is beginning to go down in my estimation as each day passes.  I just hope they all manage to nominate the same person from Hell (hopefully Luke but probably Beccy) so that another housemate from Hell goes.  Darnell is sure to be nominated next week along with probably Rex but if Beccy is up with them then she goes.  If the votes from hell are spread between too many housemates from hell then we could lose a good housemate next week.

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Posted 23/7/2008 01:05 (#29909 - in reply to #29871)
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I'm gobsmacked over tonight's highlights. They actually showed Rachel nominating. I think it's the first time

Rebecca, Darnell and Mohammed are up for nomination. With luck Rebecca will go and Darnell will start to realize that the world doesn't hate him. That's assuming he can pull himself together enough this week that he doesn't end up creating a self-fulfilling prophecy

I have to say, if anyone has a bunch of live streaming recorded and is not sure what to watch, Friday evening was absolutely fasicnaiting. First there was Darnell's friends giving him a stern talking to about his behaviour and later the conversation touched on in the highlights between Rachel and Rex about her fence-sitting.

As I suspected Rachel more than held her own in that conversation to the point where Rex was actually enviying her outlook because he felt he would never be able to feel that contented.

For me, it's these kinds of conversations that are the best part of Big Brother. Forget the arguments or the bitching, or even the tasks and the twists. It's the deep and meaningful insights into people and what makes them tick that really make the show for me. People like Rachel maybe boring in terms of what you can show on the highlights every day but she's the highlight of the show for me this year. No question.

Interesting snippits from Friday included the fact that she had been a bit of a child star when she was younger. She's been in several movies as well as 22 adverts before she was 10. She had her own trailer, a private tutor and loads of money which she ended up spending all on things like flutes and saxaphones .

In the end she decided education was more important and gave up the acting life to study for her teaching degree.

Here's her IMDB page, if anyone's interested:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0723525/


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Posted 23/7/2008 10:31 (#29912 - in reply to #29174)
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On Monday nights live feed about 10.30pm Rex used this information he got about Rachel in a bitching session with Luke and Dale.  He said some real nasty things about Rachel and made Luke's night.  Rachel opened up to Rex and trusted him and he then went and started bitching about her with the whisper club.  Rex was also slating Kathreya on last nights live feed behind her back with the whisper club. Rex is clearly a selfish person with no feelings for anyone else in the house.

It was a pleasant change to see Rachel's nominations last night and her reasons just summed up exactly the people she nominated.  I would much rather watch an adult conversation rather than Beccy stripping off and Luke and co bitching around the clock so hopefully the director lets us see more of Rachel.

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Posted 25/7/2008 12:13 (#29953 - in reply to #29912)
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I watched the live streaming last night and saw the aftermath of the incident in which Rebecca and Mohammed kissed. It was riveting stuff and it basically removed any doubt in my mind whatsoever about Luke and Rebecca's relationship. I really believe it's as genuine as they come.

Luke took the kiss very badly. He was really upset by it and, as he said to Rebecca later, the way he felt about it surprised him and he realized that his feelings for Rebecca were more than just friendship. Rebecca tried to say that she felt the same way but hadn't realized Luke did. She protested that the kiss with Mohammed meant nothing but Luke argued that if she can snog people she didn't like for a laugh then it proved that the previous snogs with him must have been just as meaningless. It was all heart-wrenching, raw-emotion stuff and there's no way it was faked.

The thing about the timing of previous snogs isn't coincidental but, in a way, I think they used the idea of providing entertainment during an eviction week as an excuse to do what they secretly wanted to do anyway. Now they've come to realize that they both feel the same way about each other and not a moment too soon, really, as she's almost certain to be leaving today.

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Posted 25/7/2008 12:43 (#29954 - in reply to #29174)
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I just hope that when beccy goes tonight Darnell takes something from it.  He will hopefully realise that people think that he is generally a decent guy and he has no reason to be down on himself.  When he is not in self pitying mode he is a fun housemate and also an honourable one who will do what he thinks is the right thing and not just the popular thing.

If Luke is genuine about Beccy and she goes then I have no sympathy for him.  It will just be Karma for the way he behaves and thinks about the other housemates.  When he was chanting "we need to push her" about Rachel he seemed to be really enjoying himself and it was sickening to watch Dale, Beccy and Stu joining in.  Luke is very near the top of my all time dislike list of BB contestants so anything that upsets him is fine with me.

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Posted 25/7/2008 22:12 (#29958 - in reply to #29174)
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Rebecca has been evicted with 65.4% of the vote. Quite a high percentage in a 3 way split.
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Posted 25/7/2008 22:59 (#29959 - in reply to #29174)
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I am beginning to think Davina draws a wage under false pretences.  Telling Beccy everyone loves her and finds her entertaining when she got twice the vote of the other 2 put together.  She just can not interview people as her BBC chat show proved.
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Posted 26/7/2008 00:38 (#29962 - in reply to #29959)
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premierscfc - 25/7/2008 22:59

I am beginning to think Davina draws a wage under false pretences.  Telling Beccy everyone loves her and finds her entertaining when she got twice the vote of the other 2 put together.  She just can not interview people as her BBC chat show proved.


I don't think Davina said everyone loves her she just said that a lot of people found her entertaining which I think is true. She was my most disliked housemate since Dennis went but I still have to concede that she was entertaining.

I did find the interview a little light on reasons for her eviction. It's almost like the production team didn't know why people disliked her so didn't have anything prepared.
If anything, the only time she got to get any kind of hint about why people might dislike her is when they showed her her best bits VT

Having said that, I don't really have a problem with Davina's interview technique. I certainly don't want to see the evictees subjected to any kind of an aggressive public grilling. It would either upset them or turn them defensive and either way it would make for uncomfortable viewing, as far as I'm concerned.

I think Davina sees it as her role to try to rehabilitate the public's view of each evictee to try to soften the blow and lessen any potential repercussions that being on the program might have caused them.

Personally, I think that's the right approach.

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Julian - 26/7/2008 00:38
premierscfc - 25/7/2008 22:59 I am beginning to think Davina draws a wage under false pretences. Telling Beccy everyone loves her and finds her entertaining when she got twice the vote of the other 2 put together. She just can not interview people as her BBC chat show proved.
I don't think Davina said everyone loves her she just said that a lot of people found her entertaining which I think is true. She was my most disliked housemate since Dennis went but I still have to concede that she was entertaining. I did find the interview a little light on reasons for her eviction. It's almost like the production team didn't know why people disliked her so didn't have anything prepared. If anything, the only time she got to get any kind of hint about why people might dislike her is when they showed her her best bits VT Having said that, I don't really have a problem with Davina's interview technique. I certainly don't want to see the evictees subjected to any kind of an aggressive public grilling. It would either upset them or turn them defensive and either way it would make for uncomfortable viewing, as far as I'm concerned. I think Davina sees it as her role to try to rehabilitate the public's view of each evictee to try to soften the blow and lessen any potential repercussions that being on the program might have caused them. Personally, I think that's the right approach. Regards Julian

 

Davina does give some housemates and "Aggressive public grilling" though.  Stephanie, Susie and kara Louise immediately spring to mind.  Why did she give them a hard time?  I think that if BB was just starting as a new program and the Davina we have now went for an audition as a presenter I doubt she would get the job. I think she is a lazy interviewer.

I don't buy the fact that the production team did not realise Rebecca was unpopular, if they didn't then maybe they are in the wrong job.  Rebecca was a long odds on favourite to be evicted as soon as the results of the nominations were announced and her eviction was no surprise to anyone outside the BB house.  If Rebecca got 65% out of a 3 way vote how can Davina say that a lot of people found her entertaining.  65% of a 3 way split is a huge number of people who did not find her entertaining but their views were ignored in the interview.  The fact that the best bits video may have shown the reasons she was evicted just goes to show that she was not an entertaining housemate yet Davina was fawning all over her.  I am not after a pound of flesh but I would just like the interview to reflect what we have been watching on our screen.

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Posted 26/7/2008 14:39 (#29967 - in reply to #29964)
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Davina does give some housemates and "Aggressive public grilling" though.  Stephanie, Susie and kara Louise immediately spring to mind.  Why did she give them a hard time? 


I do get the impression that Davina will forgive people a lot as long as they see it as their duty to fill the show with memorable moments. The thing she can't forgive is people who squander the opportunity of BB by spending their time sitting around having cups of tea.

Personally, my criteria are different. I don't care how entertaining someone is nearly as much as what kind of person they are.

That being said, Davina did list Makosi as her all time least favourite housemate in a recent opinion blog so there may be hope for her yet

I don't buy the fact that the production team did not realise Rebecca was unpopular, if they didn't then maybe they are in the wrong job. 


Don't get me wrong, I wasn't making excuses for the production team. I was agreeing with you that the interview was too one-sided!

I am not after a pound of flesh but I would just like the interview to reflect what we have been watching on our screen.


Can't argue with that, although I do think that points sometimes don't get made because it's live TV and sometimes housemates can be unpredictable in the amount of time they use up. Maybe she's not the best interviewer in the world but I get the feeling it's a lot harder than it looks

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Posted 28/7/2008 16:31 (#29994 - in reply to #29174)
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News of the World Blogger Peter Briffa finds parallels between last night's treatment of Rachel by BB, and the way Aisleyne was treated

http://blogs.notw.co.uk/bb9/2008/07/rachel-in-tears.html

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Posted 28/7/2008 16:44 (#29995 - in reply to #29994)
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ofni - 28/7/2008 16:31

News of the World Blogger Peter Briffa finds parallels between last night's treatment of Rachel by BB, and the way Aisleyne was treated

http://blogs.notw.co.uk/bb9/2008/07/rachel-in-tears.html

I thought Rex was really nasty to Rachel last night and went on at her for at least 2 hours without letting Rachel get a word in edgeways.  However it does look like it has not affected the way nominations have gone today.  The people who will nominate Rachel will nominate her regardless and the ones who would not have nominated her before the VT was shown will nominate someone else.  Despite Dale getting off lightly last night when Rachel got the stick it looks like he is paying for it today and looks certain to be up on Friday.

Rachel will probably get nominated by Stu, Dale, Lisa, Sara and Luke so will still probably be up unless Darnell's crew all manage to nominate Luke. 

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Posted 28/7/2008 17:13 (#29996 - in reply to #29994)
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ofni - 28/7/2008 16:31

News of the World Blogger Peter Briffa finds parallels between last night's treatment of Rachel by BB, and the way Aisleyne was treated

http://blogs.notw.co.uk/bb9/2008/07/rachel-in-tears.html



I don't really have a problem with Rachel's editing recently but then I never really had a huge problem with Aisleyne's editing. The only thing I really had a problem with was the prejudicial nature of the Machiavellian test results which they divulged on Big Brother's Big Brain shortly after she arrived. Basically, having trained psychologists telling E4 viewers that Aisleyne was extremely manipulative and willing to double-cross anyone to get where she wants to be was, IMO, the primary reason why people believed she was fake all the time. That and the less than savoury VT :D

When they let the house know the results of the Mach test and when they showed the housemates her VT in the final weeks, I think it was actually in an attempt to help Aisleyne because it gave her a chance to react to the accusations that people were making.

In the same way, I think the more the 'evidence' against Rachel is made known to Rachel the more it gives her the chance to set the record straight. The more they push Rachel the more of a story line she becomes and the more opportunity she has to defend herself. I don't think you could really argue that BB are anti-Rachel at the moment. They had three people, including a psychologist, on BBLB all explaining how Rachel isn't fake and would actually have to be a sociopath to be able to have kept up such a pretence for so long. Then they had Grace Dent on the Sunday show wanting Rachel to win and saying you'd have to be an idiot to believe Rachel was fake (nice little dig at Rebecca there :D). Mind you, Grace could have picked a slightly less subtle clip to demonstrate Rachel's strong points

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Posted 28/7/2008 17:23 (#29997 - in reply to #29995)
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premierscfc - 28/7/2008 16:44
I thought Rex was really nasty to Rachel last night and went on at her for at least 2 hours without letting Rachel get a word in edgeways.  However it does look like it has not affected the way nominations have gone today.  The people who will nominate Rachel will nominate her regardless and the ones who would not have nominated her before the VT was shown will nominate someone else.  Despite Dale getting off lightly last night when Rachel got the stick it looks like he is paying for it today and looks certain to be up on Friday.

Rachel will probably get nominated by Stu, Dale, Lisa, Sara and Luke so will still probably be up unless Darnell's crew all manage to nominate Luke. 



I think Dale is definitely up but I think Luke will get a lot too. I am pretty sure I heard Stuart and Rex in the nomination booth say they wanted to nominate Luke and Dale (Rex suggested Rachel and Maysoon but Stuart disagreed).

Even without Rex and Stuart I can see Darnell, Kathreya, Maysoon, Michael and Mohammed all going for Luke. I think Dale dislikes Darnell and Mo a bit too much to be distracted by voting for Rachel.

If Rachel is up it could be a hard one against Dale or Luke. Both of them are much higher in the betting odds than Rachel is. Still, I wouldn't mind seeing her survive an eviction vote. Dale and Stu are quite right to want to face a vote before getting to the final. It doesn't really feel like you earned your place if you haven't had to survive a vote to get there.

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Posted 28/7/2008 17:27 (#29998 - in reply to #29174)
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If Dale and Luke are up with Rachel I expect them to revert to type and go into full bitching mode and go into meltdown.  I can see Rachel coming out of last nights events with some new supporters if BB give a fair edit on tonight's show.  Rachel will have a fair chance of beating both of them.  Dale is now a bigger price than Rachel on Betfair and Luke's price is drifting.
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Posted 28/7/2008 23:54 (#30004 - in reply to #29174)
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Yes, I think this episode could well play in Rachel's favour, as long as she doesn't let it get to her, and retreats further into her shell.
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Posted 29/7/2008 00:27 (#30007 - in reply to #30004)
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emptybox - 28/7/2008 23:54

Yes, I think this episode could well play in Rachel's favour, as long as she doesn't let it get to her, and retreats further into her shell.


As long as she still has the support of her friends I think she'll be fine. I heard Mikey being particularly supportive today. He's convinced that her VT wasn't at all surprising and that she's demonstrated plenty of qualities from the VT in the house.

I have to say I've seen that audition VT several times (it's on the C4 website) and it never once struck me as out of character.

You can see all the VT's here:

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/video/index.jsp?pid=1658487374

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Posted 29/7/2008 09:54 (#30010 - in reply to #29174)
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Imogen has spoken up for Rachel:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/big_brother/article148...

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Posted 29/7/2008 12:28 (#30014 - in reply to #30010)
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ofni - 29/7/2008 09:54

Imogen has spoken up for Rachel:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/big_brother/article148...



Not that it makes Rex's behaviour any better but Imogen's got the wrong end of the stick there. Rex doesn't think Rachel was faking in the audition he thinks she's been faking in the house. He thinks she's been deliberately keeping her head down in order to avoid nomination up to the final when she can then let her true personality (the one in the VT) come out.

I do think that he honestly believes that Rachel has been trying to dupe the house into thinking she's quieter than she is in order to get to the final.

The thing with Rex is that he can't understand how anyone can realistically have Rachel's easy-going, accommodating nature. I've seen his late night conversations discussing Rachel's philosophy on life and he just can't get his head around it. It's completely foreign to his nature. When Rebecca told him that Rachel was so much louder in the auditions and that she's being fake in the house he jumped at the thought. Everything that wasn't making sense about Rachel suddenly made sense and when he saw the VT he was absolutely convinced that he was right.

As far as he's concerned he's just teasing her but he has no idea how hurtful he's being.

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Posted 29/7/2008 19:36 (#30019 - in reply to #29174)
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Looks like BB9 has just lost all credibility. Luke and Dale had received the most nominations and were up for eviction on Friday. BB in their wisdom have decided to crackdown on nominations talk all of a sudden and have decided to add Darnell, Mo, Rex, Kat, Maysoon, Rachel and Stu to the list up for eviction for supposedly using codewords to discuss nominations.

I wonder why they have chosen this week to clampdown on nomination talk. Luke and the rest of the whisper club have been talking nominations for weeks using the word Chickpea and Happy house for Kat and Rachel. Mario, Lisa and Mikey were talking about stars and stripes when they were talking about Darnell. All this went unpunished for weeks apart from the odd spell in jail but this week they decide to mess with the nomination process. I can see a lot of viewers being unhappy with this.

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Posted 29/7/2008 20:00 (#30020 - in reply to #29174)
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Cynical is hardly the word, is it? It looks more like open contempt for their voting audience.
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Posted 29/7/2008 20:08 (#30021 - in reply to #30020)
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ofni - 29/7/2008 20:00 Cynical is hardly the word, is it? It looks more like open contempt for their voting audience.

All they need to do now is make it a vote to save and it's job done.  Operation save Luke, succeeded. 

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Posted 29/7/2008 20:18 (#30022 - in reply to #29174)
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I've only ever voted for ONE housemate.

And that's how it's going to stay.
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Posted 29/7/2008 20:22 (#30023 - in reply to #30022)
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ofni - 29/7/2008 20:18 I've only ever voted for ONE housemate. And that's how it's going to stay.

I voted for a couple of others to be evicted in BB7 as well as 1 person to win and was not disappointed at the results. I have not voted since and have no intention of voting again.

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Posted 29/7/2008 20:23 (#30024 - in reply to #30019)
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premierscfc - 29/7/2008 19:36
I wonder why they have chosen this week to clampdown on nomination talk. Luke and the rest of the whisper club have been talking nominations for weeks using the word Chickpea and Happy house for Kat and Rachel. Mario, Lisa and Mikey were talking about stars and stripes when they were talking about Darnell. All this went unpunished for weeks apart from the odd spell in jail but this week they decide to mess with the nomination process. I can see a lot of viewers being unhappy with this.


To be fair, I was listening all afternoon and the nomination talk was completely out of hand. I was convinced that BB would have no choice but to crack down on it.

It was basically because of the nomination booth. It puit the idea of chatting openly into everybody's head and all the codewords they used were completely fooling nobody. BB would have lost all credibility if they'd let it continue, in my opinion.

I do think they were a bit harsh on Stuart (taking away his head of house) as I never heard him participate and he swears adamantly that he never did anything wrong.

In any case, I like the idea that so many are up. It gives Dale and Stuart the chance to face a vote like they wanted and puts Rex up again and will hopefully mean that all the "trying to get nominated" antics will stop. I'm even glad that Rachel's up since being up is all part of the experience.

Big votes are much more unpredictable than head to heads but I reckon there are two ways to go. Either the public will try to get rid of the boring ones (in which case Mohammed or Maysoon are the most likely) or they'll go for the bigger characters like Darnell, Luke or Rex.

Personally, I'd most like to get rid of Luke, Dale or Mohammed. In fact, I might just vote for all three

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Posted 29/7/2008 20:36 (#30025 - in reply to #30024)
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Julian - 29/7/2008 20:23
premierscfc - 29/7/2008 19:36 I wonder why they have chosen this week to clampdown on nomination talk. Luke and the rest of the whisper club have been talking nominations for weeks using the word Chickpea and Happy house for Kat and Rachel. Mario, Lisa and Mikey were talking about stars and stripes when they were talking about Darnell. All this went unpunished for weeks apart from the odd spell in jail but this week they decide to mess with the nomination process. I can see a lot of viewers being unhappy with this.
To be fair, I was listening all afternoon and the nomination talk was completely out of hand. I was convinced that BB would have no choice but to crack down on it. It was basically because of the nomination booth. It puit the idea of chatting openly into everybody's head and all the codewords they used were completely fooling nobody. BB would have lost all credibility if they'd let it continue, in my opinion. I do think they were a bit harsh on Stuart (taking away his head of house) as I never heard him participate and he swears adamantly that he never did anything wrong. In any case, I like the idea that so many are up. It gives Dale and Stuart the chance to face a vote like they wanted and puts Rex up again and will hopefully mean that all the "trying to get nominated" antics will stop. I'm even glad that Rachel's up since being up is all part of the experience. Big votes are much more unpredictable than head to heads but I reckon there are two ways to go. Either the public will try to get rid of the boring ones (in which case Mohammed or Maysoon are the most likely) or they'll go for the bigger characters like Darnell, Luke or Rex. Personally, I'd most like to get rid of Luke, Dale or Mohammed. In fact, I might just vote for all three Regards Julian

 

Todays chat was no worse than the which housemate would you push off a cliff or who would be in your final 5 games we have had for weeks.  Luke has done more nomination chat than the other housemates put together.  The timing stinks.  They could have decided to clamp down anyday of the week as there has been so much nomination chat but instead they wait till after nominations.  They could have left this weeks nominations alone and then wait till the nomination chat rule was broken again, probably tomorrow knowing this lot, and put everybody up next week.

I would not be surprised to see them changing the vote to being a vote to save as well just as it was in BB7 when they wanted to save Pete. There have been too many coincidences in BB over the last few series for them all to be coincidences.  They have their golden rule that BB reserves the right to change the rules at anytime but they only seem to change the rules when it suits their agenda.  Luke has been used in trailers for BBBM, Nikki had her show with Endemol and both benefited from a twist.  Call me a cynic but if Luke was not up I think there would not be any punishment today.

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Posted 29/7/2008 21:13 (#30027 - in reply to #29174)
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its over as a programme now. if they are punishing HMs for today then it was after the nominations were done and therefore count towards next week. Its beyond ridiculous. Thats it for me. They jumped the shark with the whole Nikki thing and it continues every time. The timing is all important and they tried to change the vote by showing the VTs and now that didnt work they pull this off. And they wonder why people turn off
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Posted 29/7/2008 21:22 (#30029 - in reply to #29174)
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my fave is still rex and i like stu aswell now
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Posted 29/7/2008 21:35 (#30030 - in reply to #29174)
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I cant believe some people on the forums DONT think its fixed unless its a vote to save. That makes it too obvious. What they will do is after tonights h/ls (it is too late to change them), Luke will just disappear from the h/ls for a few days, and I think Rex will be shown badly, deservedly so, but the point is he and all the others shouldnt be up.
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Posted 29/7/2008 22:06 (#30034 - in reply to #30030)
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bradley27 - 29/7/2008 21:35

I cant believe some people on the forums DONT think its fixed unless its a vote to save. That makes it too obvious. What they will do is after tonights h/ls (it is too late to change them), Luke will just disappear from the h/ls for a few days, and I think Rex will be shown badly, deservedly so, but the point is he and all the others shouldnt be up.


I completely disagree. Luke is more popular than Dale in the betting odds and has been for weeks. In a straight head to head Luke could very easily win but, if anything, what they've done now makes Luke more likely to go.

Predicting the final five is, as far as I'm aware, not a rule-break. Nor is it a rule break to say who you're favourite or least favourite people are in the house. Until today everything has been border line or within the rules. Today it was absolutely blatantly against the rules from almost the entire house and there's no way BB could have, or should have, let it go, in my opinion.

They couldn't throw people in jail because there were too many and it would have disrupted the task. I think putting them all up was an excellent move that solves a lot of problems (as I mentioned earlier) and I don't think for a single second that it had anything to do with some kind of attempt to save Luke. People have had these conspiracy theories for as long as I can remember but, as far as I'm concerned, all they ever do is try to make an exciting and entertaining show and I don't see this as being any different.

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Posted 29/7/2008 22:53 (#30037 - in reply to #29174)
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Nah.
It's definitely been done now to try give Luke and Dale better chances of staying in.

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Posted 29/7/2008 23:02 (#30038 - in reply to #30034)
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Julian - 29/7/2008 22:06

bradley27 - 29/7/2008 21:35

I cant believe some people on the forums DONT think its fixed unless its a vote to save. That makes it too obvious. What they will do is after tonights h/ls (it is too late to change them), Luke will just disappear from the h/ls for a few days, and I think Rex will be shown badly, deservedly so, but the point is he and all the others shouldnt be up.


I completely disagree. Luke is more popular than Dale in the betting odds and has been for weeks. In a straight head to head Luke could very easily win but, if anything, what they've done now makes Luke more likely to go.

Predicting the final five is, as far as I'm aware, not a rule-break. Nor is it a rule break to say who you're favourite or least favourite people are in the house. Until today everything has been border line or within the rules. Today it was absolutely blatantly against the rules from almost the entire house and there's no way BB could have, or should have, let it go, in my opinion.

They couldn't throw people in jail because there were too many and it would have disrupted the task. I think putting them all up was an excellent move that solves a lot of problems (as I mentioned earlier) and I don't think for a single second that it had anything to do with some kind of attempt to save Luke. People have had these conspiracy theories for as long as I can remember but, as far as I'm concerned, all they ever do is try to make an exciting and entertaining show and I don't see this as being any different.

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Sorry its got nothing to do with who is more popular Luke or Dale. The idea is to try to stop Luke from going. The vote was going to be very close. Now they have just abused the system again and once again shown their contempt for the viewers and thats why the figures go down and down. Its as simple as that. People watching, whoever they want to go or not each week, want to be able to enjoy it as a fair competition. Personally although I never thought I'd say it, I would have preferred Dale to go over Luke, but he would have most likely stayed due to the tennie vote, but they didnt want to take the risk. There is no point in nominations or votes if the producers are just going to say that they dont like it so they are going to do things to suit themselves. The stupidity of it is they think they improve the ratings tht way, in fact as we continually see, the decline. The vote was set up to be close and exciting this week but its been ruined AGAIN after the producers promised they wouldnt this year.

Its not the fact that they are all up its the timing of it. They could put them in jail, two by two and if it makes the task near impossible then thats their problem (they locked up Dennis just before the task dance, dont forget.

You may think it hasnt been designed for that fact but you are considerably in the massive minority. They have done it too often now. These "rule breaks" happened AFTER the nominations, and therefore nothing to do with this weeks eviction. If they wanted to punish them they could have done so next week. Besides the amount of nomination talk, with some of the most obvious ones like "which two h/ms would you push off a cliff" went un-punished, yet this bit did, just after the producers failed to get what they wanted from the showings of the VTs (another attempt to influence nominations which they promised not to).

You have missed the point I'm afraid. It doesnt matter who they are trying to protect or not, they promised they wouldnt do this and have once again gone back on their word. BB is dying each year and these stunts keep knifing it in the back
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Posted 29/7/2008 23:40 (#30040 - in reply to #30038)
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bradley27 - 29/7/2008 23:02
You have missed the point I'm afraid. It doesnt matter who they are trying to protect or not, they promised they wouldnt do this and have once again gone back on their word. BB is dying each year and these stunts keep knifing it in the back


What stunt? It's a simple case of having to put a stop to the rule breaking in the most effective way. It's a perfectly standard way to punish nomination talk. Allowing the housemates to talk about nominations is what turns BB into an unfair competition. In fact, I'm much more annoyed at the nomination booth idea than about them coming down hard on the nomination talk outside of it.

Jail would have been completely impractical and not sufficient for the severity of the breech and, in any case, I fail to see what's so unfair about letting the public have their say. However many people are up it is still the most disliked housemate who will get evicted. The more people are up the more chance the public get to get rid of who they want to get rid of.

I really don't see the problem?

As for being in the minority, that may or may not be the case but if you've such faith in the opinion of the majority then you shouldn't have any problem in who the majority want evicted this week

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Posted 30/7/2008 00:02 (#30042 - in reply to #30040)
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Julian - 29/7/2008 23:40

bradley27 - 29/7/2008 23:02
You have missed the point I'm afraid. It doesnt matter who they are trying to protect or not, they promised they wouldnt do this and have once again gone back on their word. BB is dying each year and these stunts keep knifing it in the back


What stunt? It's a simple case of having to put a stop to the rule breaking in the most effective way. It's a perfectly standard way to punish nomination talk. Allowing the housemates to talk about nominations is what turns BB into an unfair competition. In fact, I'm much more annoyed at the nomination booth idea than about them coming down hard on the nomination talk outside of it.

Jail would have been completely impractical and not sufficient for the severity of the breech and, in any case, I fail to see what's so unfair about letting the public have their say. However many people are up it is still the most disliked housemate who will get evicted. The more people are up the more chance the public get to get rid of who they want to get rid of.

I really don't see the problem?

As for being in the minority, that may or may not be the case but if you've such faith in the opinion of the majority then you shouldn't have any problem in who the majority want evicted this week

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I know you dont see the problem, but its the timing of this. Jail wasnt impractical, nor was there a problem with this sort of punishment. Its purely down to the timing of it. It doesnt take a genuis to work out why.

As for you being in the minority, i was referring to being in a minority that dont think its a fix. TBH I want Dale out this week as I put money on him to be out, but thats not the point.

This is completely inconstitant and has gone against what they promised. It might not work and Luke might still go, but its not the point. They are treated us as idiots and they are losing viewers all the time. Why do you think thats the case?
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and another thing, whats worse. Talking in code about WHO YOU HAD nominated after the nominations or talking in code about WHO YOU SHOULD nominate just before them? Which is worse? Because I think the influencing others to nominate before is worse, yet that went unpunished all the time (STARS AND STRIPES remeber, along with many other times)
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bradley27 - 30/7/2008 00:02
I know you dont see the problem, but its the timing of this. Jail wasnt impractical, nor was there a problem with this sort of punishment. Its purely down to the timing of it. It doesnt take a genuis to work out why.

As for you being in the minority, i was referring to being in a minority that dont think its a fix. TBH I want Dale out this week as I put money on him to be out, but thats not the point.


I know what you meant by being in a minority. I was trying to make the point (albeit subtly) that I don't believe you are any more likely to allow majority opinion to sway you from what you believe to be true any more than I am. In fact, most fans of Aisleyne wouldn't be fans if they'd let themselves be swayed by what the majority opinion appeared to be!

I was watching the live stream on my mobile phone from about 1.30pm to 6pm yesterday so I'm guessing I saw a lot more of the rule-breaking than the majority. The decision to come down hard on the housemates was inevitable based on what I saw. BB had already tried jail as punishment and yet they were still doing it. They needed something stronger and the only thing that would really help at this point was the threat of eviction.

Even if they decided to go with such a weak punishment, Jail terms would have conflicted with the task as many housemates would need to be available for long-term tasks that they wouldn't have been able to do in jail. For that matter, several heavenly housemates wouldn't even have been able to go to jail because the heavenly jail didn't even exist at that point!

Meanwhilst, even if there were alternatives I don't see the need for them. I see no downside to the show or unfairness to the public or the housemates through the idea of putting so many people to the public vote. There are positive voting shows which have everybody vulnerable for 'eviction' every week and I don't see anybody complaining about that!

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bradley27 - 30/7/2008 00:10

and another thing, whats worse. Talking in code about WHO YOU HAD nominated after the nominations or talking in code about WHO YOU SHOULD nominate just before them? Which is worse? Because I think the influencing others to nominate before is worse, yet that went unpunished all the time (STARS AND STRIPES remeber, along with many other times)


Except that I personally haven't seen any talking in code about who housemates should nominate prior to the nominations this week. All instances that I have seen were punished by jail in previous weeks.

In any case it's a matter of degree. Isolated instances are one thing but this was a mass epidemic yesterday!

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Julian - 30/7/2008 07:47
bradley27 - 30/7/2008 00:02 I know you dont see the problem, but its the timing of this. Jail wasnt impractical, nor was there a problem with this sort of punishment. Its purely down to the timing of it. It doesnt take a genuis to work out why. As for you being in the minority, i was referring to being in a minority that dont think its a fix. TBH I want Dale out this week as I put money on him to be out, but thats not the point.
I know what you meant by being in a minority. I was trying to make the point (albeit subtly) that I don't believe you are any more likely to allow majority opinion to sway you from what you believe to be true any more than I am. In fact, most fans of Aisleyne wouldn't be fans if they'd let themselves be swayed by what the majority opinion appeared to be! I was watching the live stream on my mobile phone from about 1.30pm to 6pm yesterday so I'm guessing I saw a lot more of the rule-breaking than the majority. The decision to come down hard on the housemates was inevitable based on what I saw. BB had already tried jail as punishment and yet they were still doing it. They needed something stronger and the only thing that would really help at this point was the threat of eviction. Even if they decided to go with such a weak punishment, Jail terms would have conflicted with the task as many housemates would need to be available for long-term tasks that they wouldn't have been able to do in jail. For that matter, several heavenly housemates wouldn't even have been able to go to jail because the heavenly jail didn't even exist at that point! Meanwhilst, even if there were alternatives I don't see the need for them. I see no downside to the show or unfairness to the public or the housemates through the idea of putting so many people to the public vote. There are positive voting shows which have everybody vulnerable for 'eviction' every week and I don't see anybody complaining about that! Regards Julian

 

Do they change the voting procedures on a weekly basis?  We have had a vote to evict every week so they should leave things alone and have a vote to evict this week.  It already stinks that they decide to put people up for eviction for nominations talk the week Luke was up and changing the way the vote is done just adds more credence to the accusations of fix.  If they decided they needed to clampdown on nomination chat why not take the right to nominate away from the offenders like they have done in previous series. I think Imogen was banned from nominating for 3 weeks for nomination talk and she was not automatically put up for eviction.  Call me a cynic but I think that if Luke was not up for eviction the punishment for nomination chat would have been different.  

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If BB were to switch to a positive vote this week then, I agree, it would definitely be a suspiciously arbitrary move very probably designed to manipulate the vote. My argument doesn't address that scenario as I've not heard anything to suggest that BB intend to do that!

In principle I much prefer positive voting to negative voting as I think it's fairer and far more likely to weed out the ones that make no impact on the show than a negative vote. Having said that, they can't just change the voting pattern just because of a rule breach and I'd be very surprised if they did so now.

I also think if they were prepared to manipulate things to keep people in then they would have done it last week to keep Rebecca. There is no point keeping a morose and subdued Luke in the house now that Rebecca has gone so I really don't see what they would have to gain by such a move?

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Posted 30/7/2008 12:02 (#30049 - in reply to #30048)
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It looks like Rachel just returned to the house after having her tooth fixed and she's been told she's now an Auntie

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Posted 30/7/2008 13:24 (#30050 - in reply to #29174)
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i hope dale goes this week..i hope its vote 2 save
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Posted 30/7/2008 14:06 (#30052 - in reply to #30050)
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This is so frustrating! I'm watching them working out the equation for the safe-cracking task but when they first tried to work out 945/5 they came up with 211 instead of 189 and they've been repeating the mistake ever since. They keep going back over the sums again and again but they never try recalculating 945/5 so they keep getting it wrong
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sophie - 30/7/2008 13:24 i hope dale goes this week..i hope its vote 2 save

If it's a vote to save then Dale is safe.

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Posted 30/7/2008 18:40 (#30054 - in reply to #30052)
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Julian - 30/7/2008 14:06

This is so frustrating! I'm watching them working out the equation for the safe-cracking task but when they first tried to work out 945/5 they came up with 211 instead of 189 and they've been repeating the mistake ever since. They keep going back over the sums again and again but they never try recalculating 945/5 so they keep getting it wrong



I found the sums on the C4 website if anyone wants to have a go:

Sum 1
3 x 17 - 24 + 78 x 9 ÷ 5 - (13²) + (65 - 29) ÷ 4 + (4²) - (7 x 3) + (3²) + 99 - (7²) - 49 =

Sum2
1396 x 2 ÷ 4 - (12²) + 46 x 2 ÷ 40 x (5²) - (7 x 99) x 3 - (11²) x 5 - 219 =

Sum3
100 - 33 X 5 + 665 ÷ (5²) X 17 - 248 X 3 ÷ (4²) + 52 ÷ 7 + (273 - 217)=

I wasn't timing it but I think it took me about 10 minutes. Assuming I got it right, of course

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Posted 30/7/2008 20:45 (#30055 - in reply to #29174)
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Apparently Maysoon is preparing to leave. Not got live feed so no idea if she's definitely walking out or not.
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Posted 30/7/2008 22:34 (#30058 - in reply to #29174)
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she has left and they didnt put her number up at the end of the show. Shame, as usual the decent ones are made to feel like cr*p and decide to leave. At least she didnt go on and go and go nowhere like others in the house. Apparently Rex is in the DR at the mo and some are saying he looked guilty. If he does, good I say, he should feel bad.
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Posted 30/7/2008 22:42 (#30060 - in reply to #30050)
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i hope dale goes this week..i hope its vote 2 save


Somebody's love for Dale didn't last the distance


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secrethousemate - 30/7/2008 22:42
sophie - 30/7/2008 13:24 i hope dale goes this week..i hope its vote 2 save
Somebody's love for Dale didn't last the distance

I think the word you're looking for is fickle.

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Posted 31/7/2008 00:39 (#30063 - in reply to #29174)
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People who for some reason want to vote this week should make sure they realise that voting CLOSES AT 23.59 TOMORROW...... THERE IS NO VOTING ON FRIDAY.

Endemol are claiming this is due to "administrative reasons"???? Yeah I believe that. Amazing that all these things are happening this week. Strangely this was very badly advertised at the end of tonights show (in small print). So for some reason they are only having voting for about 24 hours.

They must all thing we are stupid when they also claim, "but I am told that this will not affect the outcome of the vote in any way - it will just be a shorter voting period than usual." Everyone knows that the main lot of voting is done on a Friday, especially when there hasnt been any voting allowed till tonight.

What with Grace proving again this week that shes moved to the dark side (no mention of the "nomination twist"...... previous years she would have done her nut about it, and no mention at all of Luke...... part of an attempt, too late in my opinion, to let him fly under the radar for a couple of days) and this continued farce, they really are treating us as idiot who they can lie to
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Posted 31/7/2008 08:50 (#30064 - in reply to #29174)
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I tend to believe the reasons for the lines closing early.  I will be amazed if the result of the vote is not leaked beforehand and basically spoil the eviction show.  I don't think they would be prepared to sacrifice the suspense of the eviction show just to support a housemate.  The whole week has been unsatisfactory but apart from there own incompetence they have had to deal with other situations as well.  Maysoon leaving is almost certainly the reason the voting lines were late opening so I don't think they delayed the vote just to cut down on voting time.  None of this changes my opinion that the change of heart regarding the punishment for nomination chat was just a cynical ploy to affect the outcome of the eviction vote though.
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Posted 31/7/2008 09:43 (#30065 - in reply to #30064)
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The website stated that the delay in the start of voting was because they needed to find extra people to monitor all the lines.

I think it's pretty understandable why they would need to end the vote early this week. They have suddenly been faced with an unexpected 8-way vote which would normally require them to prepare eight Best Bit compilations and associated clips and eight exit interviews and then Davina would have to come in and rehearse eight different interviews prior to the live show. Even BBBM would probably be affected with 8 possible themes. That's a huge headache that can all be avoided by the simple expedient of ending the voting early.

If anything, the votes cast during the week will be from more informed, regular devoted viewers whereas the last minute voters are more likely to be casual viewers who, IMO, would probably be far more predisposed to like Luke than the ones who have been following the show daily. Having said that, given the millions of votes involved I don't think the ratios ever shift to any great degree during the week's voting unless something major happens to affect people's opinions.

The last I heard Luke was favourite to go with Rex as second favourite. If people want Luke to go all they need to do is vote for him.

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Posted 31/7/2008 10:57 (#30066 - in reply to #30065)
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Julian - 31/7/2008 09:43

The website stated that the delay in the start of voting was because they needed to find extra people to monitor all the lines.

I think it's pretty understandable why they would need to end the vote early this week. They have suddenly been faced with an unexpected 8-way vote which would normally require them to prepare eight Best Bit compilations and associated clips and eight exit interviews and then Davina would have to come in and rehearse eight different interviews prior to the live show. Even BBBM would probably be affected with 8 possible themes. That's a huge headache that can all be avoided by the simple expedient of ending the voting early.

If anything, the votes cast during the week will be from more informed, regular devoted viewers whereas the last minute voters are more likely to be casual viewers who, IMO, would probably be far more predisposed to like Luke than the ones who have been following the show daily. Having said that, given the millions of votes involved I don't think the ratios ever shift to any great degree during the week's voting unless something major happens to affect people's opinions.

The last I heard Luke was favourite to go with Rex as second favourite. If people want Luke to go all they need to do is vote for him.

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you mean Davina actually does rehearsals

How bad would she be if she didnt
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Posted 31/7/2008 10:58 (#30067 - in reply to #30064)
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I tend to believe the reasons for the lines closing early.  I will be amazed if the result of the vote is not leaked beforehand and basically spoil the eviction show.  I don't think they would be prepared to sacrifice the suspense of the eviction show just to support a housemate.  The whole week has been unsatisfactory but apart from there own incompetence they have had to deal with other situations as well.  Maysoon leaving is almost certainly the reason the voting lines were late opening so I don't think they delayed the vote just to cut down on voting time.  None of this changes my opinion that the change of heart regarding the punishment for nomination chat was just a cynical ploy to affect the outcome of the eviction vote though.


maybe it is but if you continually lie and mis-lead the public over the years, when you tell the truth, you dont deserve the benefit of the doubt
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Posted 31/7/2008 19:36 (#30073 - in reply to #30067)
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There's a member of the public who has turned up on BBBM a few times who now has his own opinion video on the C4 web-site. I was in two minds whether to bother with it but I'm glad I did. It's hilarious:

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=10902&posi...



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Posted 31/7/2008 22:38 (#30074 - in reply to #30065)
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Julian - 31/7/2008 09:43

The website stated that the delay in the start of voting was because they needed to find extra people to monitor all the lines.

I think it's pretty understandable why they would need to end the vote early this week. They have suddenly been faced with an unexpected 8-way vote which would normally require them to prepare eight Best Bit compilations and associated clips and eight exit interviews and then Davina would have to come in and rehearse eight different interviews prior to the live show. Even BBBM would probably be affected with 8 possible themes. That's a huge headache that can all be avoided by the simple expedient of ending the voting early.

If anything, the votes cast during the week will be from more informed, regular devoted viewers whereas the last minute voters are more likely to be casual viewers who, IMO, would probably be far more predisposed to like Luke than the ones who have been following the show daily. Having said that, given the millions of votes involved I don't think the ratios ever shift to any great degree during the week's voting unless something major happens to affect people's opinions.

The last I heard Luke was favourite to go with Rex as second favourite. If people want Luke to go all they need to do is vote for him.

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but when Nikki went in BB7 there were either 11 or 12 up then and they managed to cope with that. I just dont think its the case. It could be but I dont believe a thing they say anymore. Like I said if there is any benefit of doubt, they dont deserve it
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Posted 31/7/2008 23:59 (#30075 - in reply to #30074)
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bradley27 - 31/7/2008 22:38
but when Nikki went in BB7 there were either 11 or 12 up then and they managed to cope with that. I just dont think its the case. It could be but I dont believe a thing they say anymore. Like I said if there is any benefit of doubt, they dont deserve it


It was probably that experience which led to their decision to give themselves more time this time round. Once bitten twice shy

I think the whole Nikki thing is a perfect example of why they wouldn't have done this to manipulate the vote. When Nikki left they couldn't possibly have been expecting it and they certainly wouldn't have wanted it. Large votes like this one are very unpredictable. It's much easier for someone to go that the majority want to stay because it's difficult for people to vote defensively. I ended up voting Nikki out last time even though there were plenty of people I would have preferred to have gone before her but the bookies had Aisleyne and Nikki as the two favourites to go so voting Nikki was the best way to save Ash.

Basically, you can't predict an 8-way until it happens and putting up so many public favourites in an 8-way is very risky. I think it shows that they're not playing favourites. The rule breaking got so flagrant that if they hadn't come down hard on it the same people making a hue and cry now would have been baying for BB's blood over letting the housemates get away with such an abuse of the system. I still maintain that they couldn't have used jail at that point but even if they could, they'd tried that punishment and it hadn't worked. It was time for something harder.

At the end of the day it looks like Luke's going to go anyway (fingers crossed) so I think it worked out pretty well all round

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Posted 1/8/2008 00:10 (#30076 - in reply to #29174)
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sorry Julian just cant agree.... guess we are going to have to agree to disagree.

BTW Nikki was a big odds on favourite to go when she went, so they would have known.

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Posted 1/8/2008 17:46 (#30087 - in reply to #30076)
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bradley27 - 1/8/2008 00:10

sorry Julian just cant agree.... guess we are going to have to agree to disagree.

BTW Nikki was a big odds on favourite to go when she went, so they would have known.


I don't think anyone would have guessed she would go until she was put up. Only then did she become favourite based on the money put on her.

It's been a fascinating live stream today.

There was a huge row between Lisa and Rex. I missed the row but I saw Rachel comforting Kathreya in the toilet and the make up conversation between Lisa and Rex later. It was a fascinating insight into Rex, I thought, although Lisa isn't buying it.

I caught an interesting snippet between Rachel and Mohammed. Apparently Mohammed had upset her earlier by making a remark which she felt would upset her boyfriend. They've made up now though.

Rachel's been a joy to watch today. I think Rex might have done her a favour with all that VT teasing

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Posted 1/8/2008 22:01 (#30089 - in reply to #29174)
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Luke has been evicted with 37% of the vote.  It's just a shame we won't get to see what % the others got.
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Posted 1/8/2008 22:03 (#30090 - in reply to #29174)
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Not as high as some polls suggested. Plus Rex's girlfriend going in? Is this Endemol getting desperate to try and pump some life back into the show now a lot of the 'loud' housemates have left? It smacks a bit of Jade Goody all over again. Presumably they won't nominate each other so have an unfair advantage. Booooo!!!!


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Posted 1/8/2008 22:15 (#30091 - in reply to #30090)
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secrethousemate - 1/8/2008 22:03 Not as high as some polls suggested. Plus Rex's girlfriend going in? Is this Endemol getting desperate to try and pump some life back into the show now a lot of the 'loud' housemates have left? It smacks a bit of Jade Goody all over again. Presumably they won't nominate each other so have an unfair advantage. Booooo!!!!

 

I do think BB have played us all for fools this week.  The schedule for tonights second show was extended last weekend so they have had it planned for Rex's girlfriend to go into the house all week.  Rex has had such a favourable edit all week with so many examples of his nastiness to the other house mates missed off the highlights show.  Hopefully he will be even more of an arrogant pig now his girlfriend is in the house and the other housemates nominate him.  I'm sure the BB viewers will have him in their sights now Luke has gone.

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Posted 2/8/2008 00:39 (#30093 - in reply to #30091)
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secrethousemate - 1/8/2008 22:03 Not as high as some polls suggested. Plus Rex's girlfriend going in? Is this Endemol getting desperate to try and pump some life back into the show now a lot of the 'loud' housemates have left? It smacks a bit of Jade Goody all over again. Presumably they won't nominate each other so have an unfair advantage. Booooo!!!!

 

I do think BB have played us all for fools this week.  The schedule for tonights second show was extended last weekend so they have had it planned for Rex's girlfriend to go into the house all week.  Rex has had such a favourable edit all week with so many examples of his nastiness to the other house mates missed off the highlights show.  Hopefully he will be even more of an arrogant pig now his girlfriend is in the house and the other housemates nominate him.  I'm sure the BB viewers will have him in their sights now Luke has gone.



Did he really not know she was going in?
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Posted 2/8/2008 14:30 (#30096 - in reply to #30093)
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I think it was a brilliant twist. It made great viewing.

As for Rex, after listening to his talk with Lisa after the row yesterday I've come round to liking him again. Pretty much everyone he winds up is convinced that he only does it to give them reasons to nominate him. Nobody, except Lisa, has taken it seriously at all.

Incidentally, I saw on the live streaming last night that Lisa broke the fire exit door and tried to escape. I didn't see the actual event but I saw her explaining her actions in B-block to the other housemates after she came back. Interestingly they haven't mentioned it at all on the C4 website

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Posted 2/8/2008 23:17 (#30099 - in reply to #30096)
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There was so much going on yesterday I knew they wouldn't be able to fit it all into the highlights.

One thing they missed was Rachel and Kathreya clearing the air with Lisa after she came back. Rachel admitted to Lisa that she hadn't been at all upset when Lisa had left and she felt a bit guilty about that. There was a lot of chopping and changing between conversations but from what I could make out, Rachel and Kat aired their concerns that Lisa had started joining in with the talking behind people's backs, while Lisa said she felt people had ignored Mario a lot and Kathreya brought up what I think was the incident when Mario shouted at her for getting upset about other people arguing.

I got the impression that Lisa's concerns over Rachel and Kat being genuine had finally been put to rest (funny how it took Luke going to do that ) and I think Lisa may have 'turned a corner' with those guys too.

Of course by now, they're starting to run out of people to nominate so it may not change nominations much but it was nice to see.

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Posted 2/8/2008 23:49 (#30100 - in reply to #30099)
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Looks like Rachel's won head of house this week. Way to go Rach
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Julian - 2/8/2008 23:49 Looks like Rachel's won head of house this week. Way to go Rach

Yes, this could be Rachel's chance to shine.
Hope she makes the most of it.

The twist bringing in Rex's girlfriend has turned into a bit of a damp squib already.

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Posted 4/8/2008 19:20 (#30116 - in reply to #30101)
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Rachel is now fourth favourite to win on 7/1. In my opinion, there have been enough Rachel moments over the last two days to put her right to the top of the chart. If only they'd edit it right.

Yesterday she sacrificed the chance to get a letter from home so that the hell housemates could get theirs. Not only did she make this decision without even having to think about it but she hasn't even told the house about her sacrifice. That's just class

Today she's been comforting Darnell, trying to knock some sense into him after he went into a sulk about his embarrassment with Sara. Plus she tried to do the washing up to take the burden of Kathreya and is now seething at Big Brother because they've told her she's not allowed.

It's quite interesting that all this is happening at the same time that Luke is spreading his vitriolic nonsense about her on BBLB. I can't help thinking he's doing her a favour

I'm pretty sure it'll be Stuart and Dale up tomorrow. Rex and Sara agreed to nominate them in the nomination pod because they really want to go. Several people would vote for them anyway and others would vote for them because they want to do them a favour so I think it's looking very likely!

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I don't think Sara will nominate Stuart despite what she said to Rex.  I would prefer Sara to go anyway, she has lead Darnell up the garden path.  She spent loads of time with him on Friday giving him the idea that there maybe something there.  She even said in the diary room that she wanted Darnell in her life after BB ended.  She has always had her eye on Stu and made a fool of Darnell.  He gives himself a hard time over nothing so no wonder he feels bad today.  Rachel was fantastic with him this afternoon though and was a good friend to him.  Darnell does have a point though when he says that peoples first impression of him is that he is odd.  A lot of people are shallow enough to let that prejudice their opinions and never get to know what kind of person he is.  Darnell is second favourite to win BB but he probably thinks the viewers hate him.  Hopefully he gets the reassurance he needs from BB to gain the confidence to live a happier life.

BB have been a bit naughty with the nominations process this week.  Darnell gets banned from nominating for jumping the barrier but Lisa ends up in heaven and nominates despite breaking out of the house.  Mikey and Kat have been given an impossible task to pass to earn their nominations.  Mikey is trying like a trooper with a little help from Nicole and no help from Kathreya to eat 300 large sprouts that are undercooked and stone cold.  I would not like to sit down wind of Mikey tonight.

Rachel got told off for helping Kat with the washing up.  Kat is being run off her feet looking after heaven with Mikey doing what he can (admittedly not much) but Nicole is too busy sucking Rex's face through the gaps in the perspex barrier and doing very little to help Kat. 

 

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Posted 4/8/2008 21:31 (#30118 - in reply to #30117)
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I don't think Sara will nominate Stuart despite what she said to Rex.  I would prefer Sara to go anyway, she has lead Darnell up the garden path.  She spent loads of time with him on Friday giving him the idea that there maybe something there.  She even said in the diary room that she wanted Darnell in her life after BB ended.  She has always had her eye on Stu and made a fool of Darnell.  He gives himself a hard time over nothing so no wonder he feels bad today.  Rachel was fantastic with him this afternoon though and was a good friend to him.  Darnell does have a point though when he says that peoples first impression of him is that he is odd.  A lot of people are shallow enough to let that prejudice their opinions and never get to know what kind of person he is.  Darnell is second favourite to win BB but he probably thinks the viewers hate him.  Hopefully he gets the reassurance he needs from BB to gain the confidence to live a happier life.

BB have been a bit naughty with the nominations process this week.  Darnell gets banned from nominating for jumping the barrier but Lisa ends up in heaven and nominates despite breaking out of the house.  Mikey and Kat have been given an impossible task to pass to earn their nominations.  Mikey is trying like a trooper with a little help from Nicole and no help from Kathreya to eat 300 large sprouts that are undercooked and stone cold.  I would not like to sit down wind of Mikey tonight.

Rachel got told off for helping Kat with the washing up.  Kat is being run off her feet looking after heaven with Mikey doing what he can (admittedly not much) but Nicole is too busy sucking Rex's face through the gaps in the perspex barrier and doing very little to help Kat. 

 



you do know its not the 19th century still dont you? Sara has done nothing wrong. obviously the sexual revolution hasnt quite reached the Black Country yet?

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I've noticed some parallels between Sara and Aisleyne. Ash also got it in the neck (from some people) for 'leading on' Spiral, who was a crap housemate compared to Darnell, but maybe this should be treated as a similar situation, with 'signals' being misinterpreted? I think Sara is in the house to flirt and have a good time and nothing more, as was Ash.

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Aisleyne did not get out of one bed and get straight into another guys bed to rub Spirals nose in it.  Friday's live feed (daytime) did seem to suggest that Sara was interested in Darnell.  If that gave Darnell the wrong impression then she should have chosen a different way to let him know rather than to jump into a reluctant Stuarts bed. 

The Black Country?, I see they never taught Geography south of the Watford Gap. 

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Bradley27 in talking sense shocker!

I've noticed some parallels between Sara and Aisleyne. Ash also got it in the neck (from some people) for 'leading on' Spiral, who was a crap housemate compared to Darnell, but maybe this should be treated as a similar situation, with 'signals' being misinterpreted? I think Sara is in the house to flirt and have a good time and nothing more, as was Ash.



and you can get stuffed as well..... sarccy git....

Quite right by the way, and having seen it on the h/ls tonight she did absolutely nothing wrong. She was having fun and Darnell and his problems about his own self worth changed the whole situation.

She didnt jump into bed with Stu to do anything but chat with him, just to get his opinion on whether it was getting too much. Besides why should she have to lie in a bed feeling uncomfortable just so not to upset someone...... not that I believe she was doing it for that fact.

Personally I think she suddenly realised that Darnell was getting a little too excited and wanted to ask Stu what he thought about the situation. Apparently that makes her bad.
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Aisleyne did not get out of one bed and get straight into another guys bed to rub Spirals nose in it.  Friday's live feed (daytime) did seem to suggest that Sara was interested in Darnell.  If that gave Darnell the wrong impression then she should have chosen a different way to let him know rather than to jump into a reluctant Stuarts bed. 

The Black Country?, I see they never taught Geography south of the Watford Gap. 



Sorry I meant the north.... its all the same.

Besides if you watched the h/ls she was having a laugh and Darnell took it far too seriously as is his want. She did absolutely nothing wrong. He jumped into her bed remember, she didnt jump into Darnell's bed.
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As with most things I think there was some fault on both sides. I've been thinking over the last few days that Darnell and Sara were getting way too touchy-feely given that Sara apparently fancies Stuart. She may not have been doing it deliberately but it's not surprising he got his signals mixed up.

It was pretty insensitive to go running to Stuart but I think she pretty much went into panic mode.

Darnell, on the other hand, has some serious self-worth issues. His chat with Rachel today showed such a cynical view of the world it was quite heart-breaking to imagine what he must have gone through to think like that. Rachel didn't know whether to hug him or slap him

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secrethousemate - 4/8/2008 21:39 Bradley27 in talking sense shocker! I've noticed some parallels between Sara and Aisleyne. Ash also got it in the neck (from some people) for 'leading on' Spiral, who was a crap housemate compared to Darnell, but maybe this should be treated as a similar situation, with 'signals' being misinterpreted? I think Sara is in the house to flirt and have a good time and nothing more, as was Ash.
and you can get stuffed as well..... sarccy git.... Quite right by the way, and having seen it on the h/ls tonight she did absolutely nothing wrong. She was having fun and Darnell and his problems about his own self worth changed the whole situation. She didnt jump into bed with Stu to do anything but chat with him, just to get his opinion on whether it was getting too much. Besides why should she have to lie in a bed feeling uncomfortable just so not to upset someone...... not that I believe she was doing it for that fact. Personally I think she suddenly realised that Darnell was getting a little too excited and wanted to ask Stu what he thought about the situation. Apparently that makes her bad.

And of course it had nothing to do with the fact she has been telling some of the housemates that she fancied Stuart.  Stuart tried to be diplomatic in telling her he was not comfortable with her getting in his bed and even pointed out that he was naked.  Sara could have gone to Lisa if she was that bothered by Darnell but she saw an opportunity to take advantage of the situation and got in Stuarts bed.   

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Sara and Darnell are having a heart-to-heart at the moment. Looks like they've sorted things out

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Sara lied to Rex in the nomination pod and nominated Mohammed and Dale.  There was no way she was going to nominate Stuart as she obviously fancies him.  She used Darnell as an excuse to get into Stuarts bed and misled Rex after clearly agreeing to nominate Stuart.  Fortunately Stuart is still up for eviction but the early polls and betting suggest that Dale will get evicted by a large majority.  I personally think it will be a close vote this week but could not care less whichever one goes.
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Posted 5/8/2008 20:38 (#30133 - in reply to #30124)
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secrethousemate - 4/8/2008 21:39 Bradley27 in talking sense shocker! I've noticed some parallels between Sara and Aisleyne. Ash also got it in the neck (from some people) for 'leading on' Spiral, who was a crap housemate compared to Darnell, but maybe this should be treated as a similar situation, with 'signals' being misinterpreted? I think Sara is in the house to flirt and have a good time and nothing more, as was Ash.
and you can get stuffed as well..... sarccy git.... Quite right by the way, and having seen it on the h/ls tonight she did absolutely nothing wrong. She was having fun and Darnell and his problems about his own self worth changed the whole situation. She didnt jump into bed with Stu to do anything but chat with him, just to get his opinion on whether it was getting too much. Besides why should she have to lie in a bed feeling uncomfortable just so not to upset someone...... not that I believe she was doing it for that fact. Personally I think she suddenly realised that Darnell was getting a little too excited and wanted to ask Stu what he thought about the situation. Apparently that makes her bad.

And of course it had nothing to do with the fact she has been telling some of the housemates that she fancied Stuart.  Stuart tried to be diplomatic in telling her he was not comfortable with her getting in his bed and even pointed out that he was naked.  Sara could have gone to Lisa if she was that bothered by Darnell but she saw an opportunity to take advantage of the situation and got in Stuarts bed.   



hate to break it to you, but he wasnt naked, he had boxer shorts on. Must just have been wishful thinking on your part.

Still personally I think Stu was uncomfortable because she was the wrong sex. And if she wanted to use it as an excuse, she a) wouldnt have spent the time talking about Darnell, or b) get up to see how Darnell was.

Unfortunately as much as I like Darnell, he does take things way too badly and has problems with it.

Besides if men can jump into women's bed and theres nothing wrong with it, why cant women (also she asked before jumping in) jump into men's beds without being accused of everything under the sun.
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Sara lied to Rex in the nomination pod and nominated Mohammed and Dale.  There was no way she was going to nominate Stuart as she obviously fancies him.  She used Darnell as an excuse to get into Stuarts bed and misled Rex after clearly agreeing to nominate Stuart.  Fortunately Stuart is still up for eviction but the early polls and betting suggest that Dale will get evicted by a large majority.  I personally think it will be a close vote this week but could not care less whichever one goes.


And what exactly did she do in Stu's bed? Absolutely nothing. Its one rule for one sex one for the other. Even Ais realised Darnell was in the wrong, and hes her favourite.

And is it such a terrible thing for her to fancy Stu (apart from bad judgement IMO). She has made no secret of it, telling others that she does.

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Posted 5/8/2008 22:17 (#30137 - in reply to #29174)
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Dull vs Duller.


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Posted 5/8/2008 23:18 (#30140 - in reply to #30136)
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i want dale 2 go


I thought you might
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Posted 5/8/2008 23:22 (#30141 - in reply to #30133)
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secrethousemate - 4/8/2008 21:39 Bradley27 in talking sense shocker! I've noticed some parallels between Sara and Aisleyne. Ash also got it in the neck (from some people) for 'leading on' Spiral, who was a crap housemate compared to Darnell, but maybe this should be treated as a similar situation, with 'signals' being misinterpreted? I think Sara is in the house to flirt and have a good time and nothing more, as was Ash.
and you can get stuffed as well..... sarccy git.... Quite right by the way, and having seen it on the h/ls tonight she did absolutely nothing wrong. She was having fun and Darnell and his problems about his own self worth changed the whole situation. She didnt jump into bed with Stu to do anything but chat with him, just to get his opinion on whether it was getting too much. Besides why should she have to lie in a bed feeling uncomfortable just so not to upset someone...... not that I believe she was doing it for that fact. Personally I think she suddenly realised that Darnell was getting a little too excited and wanted to ask Stu what he thought about the situation. Apparently that makes her bad.

And of course it had nothing to do with the fact she has been telling some of the housemates that she fancied Stuart.  Stuart tried to be diplomatic in telling her he was not comfortable with her getting in his bed and even pointed out that he was naked.  Sara could have gone to Lisa if she was that bothered by Darnell but she saw an opportunity to take advantage of the situation and got in Stuarts bed.   

hate to break it to you, but he wasnt naked, he had boxer shorts on. Must just have been wishful thinking on your part. Still personally I think Stu was uncomfortable because she was the wrong sex. And if she wanted to use it as an excuse, she a) wouldnt have spent the time talking about Darnell, or b) get up to see how Darnell was. Unfortunately as much as I like Darnell, he does take things way too badly and has problems with it. Besides if men can jump into women's bed and theres nothing wrong with it, why cant women (also she asked before jumping in) jump into men's beds without being accused of everything under the sun.

Stuart told Sara that he was naked and she said it does not matter, that's a fact and I will find it on youtube if you want me to.  Sara is a liar, fact, she told Rex that she would nominate Stuart when she had no intention of ever nominating him.  Maybe Darnell is not the most naive person in the world if people can't see what Sara is up to.  Darnel asked Sara what she was talking to Stuart about and again she lied.  She said she was talking about the letters when she was talking about Darnell.  Stuart is not interested in Sara but she is desperate for attention from him and will use whatever excuse she can think of to try and get that attention and if Darnell gets his nose put out of joint in the process then so be it.  If Sara fancies Stuart then fair enough but she has been joined at the hip to Darnell from Friday morning until Monday night and no wonder Darnell got the wrong idea.  I personally think that Sara is the girl the "haterz" watching BB7 wrongly accused Aisleyne of being.

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Posted 5/8/2008 23:54 (#30142 - in reply to #30141)
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premierscfc - 5/8/2008 23:22
Stuart told Sara that he was naked and she said it does not matter, that's a fact and I will find it on youtube if you want me to.  Sara is a liar, fact, she told Rex that she would nominate Stuart when she had no intention of ever nominating him.  Maybe Darnell is not the most naive person in the world if people can't see what Sara is up to.  Darnel asked Sara what she was talking to Stuart about and again she lied.  She said she was talking about the letters when she was talking about Darnell.  Stuart is not interested in Sara but she is desperate for attention from him and will use whatever excuse she can think of to try and get that attention and if Darnell gets his nose put out of joint in the process then so be it.  If Sara fancies Stuart then fair enough but she has been joined at the hip to Darnell from Friday morning until Monday night and no wonder Darnell got the wrong idea.  I personally think that Sara is the girl the "haterz" watching BB7 wrongly accused Aisleyne of being.



I'm afraid I'm more with Bradley on this one - shock horror

I do think that Sara was way too flirty with Darnell but I don't think she intended to lead him on. Let's face it, she's been touchy feely with most of the men in the house at one point or another

Her first concern when Darnell started getting fresh was esentially to ask Stuart if he thought she'd been giving Darnell the wrong impression.

Stuart did tell Sara that he was naked but we could clearly see he had boxers on. I guess he just considered that to be naked enough to be uncomfortable.

Sara did lie when she chatted with Darnell but I think it was for the right reason. In Darnell's state of mind she would have had a much tougher time convincing him to be friends again if she'd told the truth.

I wouldn't say Sara was blameless in the whole thing but I don't think she intended to hurt Darnell. I think she really does like him - in a platonic way, at least.

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Posted 7/8/2008 11:16 (#30158 - in reply to #29174)
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Mo was being a right stirrer last night..sara didnt say anything bad i dont think?
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Posted 7/8/2008 17:28 (#30161 - in reply to #29174)
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calm down Prem, your getting your facts confused with your opinions

At this rate you arent going to make it through the footie season with all the disappointment that lie ahead

BTW just like Ais, Sara hasnt done a thing, but has been accused of things left right and centre.

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Posted 7/8/2008 17:32 (#30162 - in reply to #30158)
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sophie - 7/8/2008 11:16

Mo was being a right stirrer last night..sara didnt say anything bad i dont think?


good point.... dont see anyone screaming at him being a liar and a stirrer, but Sara isnt allowed to feel uncomfortable, just like Ais wasnt. Yet strangely enough Darnell had every right to treat her like a piece of "you know what" when he was HoH. He was lucky she ever spoke to him after that. But hes a boy so thats OK.
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Posted 7/8/2008 18:00 (#30163 - in reply to #30161)
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bradley27 - 7/8/2008 17:28 calm down Prem, your getting your facts confused with your opinions At this rate you arent going to make it through the footie season with all the disappointment that lie ahead BTW just like Ais, Sara hasnt done a thing, but has been accused of things left right and centre.

 

Are you saying that Stuart never said he was naked?  Are you saying that Sara did not tell Darnell she was talikng about the letters and not Darnell?  Are you saying she did not tell Rex that she would nominate Stuart when she had no intention of doing so?  The fact is she is a liar and the evidence is there for all to see. 

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Posted 7/8/2008 20:52 (#30165 - in reply to #30163)
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premierscfc - 7/8/2008 18:00
Are you saying that Stuart never said he was naked?  Are you saying that Sara did not tell Darnell she was talikng about the letters and not Darnell?  Are you saying she did not tell Rex that she would nominate Stuart when she had no intention of doing so?  The fact is she is a liar and the evidence is there for all to see. 



All of that is true but sometimes people lie for good reasons. I don't think she meant to hurt Darnell, I think she genuinely likes Darnell and she couldn't bring herself to vote for Stuart because she likes him too much. She may have been persuaded by Rex and changed her mind or she may have been humouring Rex because she didn't want a big argument. I don't think she's done anything that awful.

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Posted 7/8/2008 20:55 (#30166 - in reply to #30158)
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sophie - 7/8/2008 11:16

Mo was being a right stirrer last night..sara didnt say anything bad i dont think?


Sara has nominated Mohammed every week since she's been able to nominate. I think that's pretty good evidence that she doesn't like him

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Posted 8/8/2008 01:48 (#30173 - in reply to #30166)
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Julian - 7/8/2008 20:55

sophie - 7/8/2008 11:16

Mo was being a right stirrer last night..sara didnt say anything bad i dont think?


Sara has nominated Mohammed every week since she's been able to nominate. I think that's pretty good evidence that she doesn't like him

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maybe so, but she didnt say what he claimed she had
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Posted 8/8/2008 01:54 (#30174 - in reply to #30163)
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bradley27 - 7/8/2008 17:28 calm down Prem, your getting your facts confused with your opinions At this rate you arent going to make it through the footie season with all the disappointment that lie ahead BTW just like Ais, Sara hasnt done a thing, but has been accused of things left right and centre.

 

Are you saying that Stuart never said he was naked?  Are you saying that Sara did not tell Darnell she was talikng about the letters and not Darnell?  Are you saying she did not tell Rex that she would nominate Stuart when she had no intention of doing so?  The fact is she is a liar and the evidence is there for all to see. 



how do you know she had no intentions of nominating Stu? She might of? Or she might not have trusted Rex, which would have been understandable. Others have said they are doing something then do something else. Still in the scheme of things, hardly that bad.

As for Stu, if you look at all the reports at the time he said he was nearly naked. Interestingly who has she been around with most in the last few days? Not in Aisleyne did the right thing every time, and as for Sara, this stuff is hardly anything compared to other stuff, and lets be honest, what Darnell did to her when he was HoH was much worse than anything she has done to him.

Besides she has been exactly as she said she would be in her VT. Shes a loud flirty fun person.
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Posted 8/8/2008 07:49 (#30176 - in reply to #29174)
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Who needs reports about what Stu was wearing.  His exact words were I am naked, not nearly naked.  I will find it on youtube when I get time later.
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I really like Sara, she's really fun and genuine. I don't mind that she didn't go ahead with her Nom Pod plans - didn't Stu do the same thing on the week when all Heavenly housemates could use it?
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dannyk - 8/8/2008 10:10

I really like Sara, she's really fun and genuine. I don't mind that she didn't go ahead with her Nom Pod plans - didn't Stu do the same thing on the week when all Heavenly housemates could use it?


Yes, as did Mikey if I remember correctly. I think Rex was about the only person who nominated who he said he'd nominate in that pod!

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Posted 8/8/2008 11:54 (#30182 - in reply to #30180)
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The highlights were quite misleading about the whole washing up thing, yesterday. It was a task for Hell to earn hot water but it was presented as though it were simply a mandatory punishment for Hell. It may well be that BB made it deliberately more onerous than the usual hot-water tasks as a punishment for Rachel but it was still Hell's choice to do the task on the basis that the reward was worth it. A fact that got kind of lost in the wash

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=12680&posi...

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Posted 8/8/2008 13:53 (#30185 - in reply to #29174)
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i like sara..her accent is awesome! nicoles voice really annoys me lol last nights episode was like one minute rex was an ideot then she was..i didnt know who was to blame for anything!
dale 2 go tonight:D
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Posted 8/8/2008 22:06 (#30194 - in reply to #29174)
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Dale has been evicted with 63% of the vote.  It also seems like the crowds have turned against Rex and were chanting get Rex out.
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Once again the DS poll overestimated the percentage by about 10 points. This seems to be a theme.
Plus as you say, Rex has now become the main target for the crowd's ire. He's in trouble if he is ever put up again.
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Posted 9/8/2008 01:42 (#30203 - in reply to #30195)
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secrethousemate - 8/8/2008 23:12

Once again the DS poll overestimated the percentage by about 10 points. This seems to be a theme.
Plus as you say, Rex has now become the main target for the crowd's ire. He's in trouble if he is ever put up again.



I'm thinking a four-way at the moment Lisa, Mikey, Rex and Stuart
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Posted 9/8/2008 14:34 (#30206 - in reply to #30203)
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Julian - 9/8/2008 01:42
secrethousemate - 8/8/2008 23:12 Once again the DS poll overestimated the percentage by about 10 points. This seems to be a theme. Plus as you say, Rex has now become the main target for the crowd's ire. He's in trouble if he is ever put up again.
I'm thinking a four-way at the moment Lisa, Mikey, Rex and Stuart

Sara is bound to be nominated next week.  She has been leading Darnell up the garden path again and some of the other housemates have even called her for it.  Darnell has also found out that she has told some of the housemates that she fancies Stuart and is telling him lies when she says that she does not. 

 

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Posted 10/8/2008 00:54 (#30209 - in reply to #30203)
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Julian - 9/8/2008 01:42
secrethousemate - 8/8/2008 23:12 Once again the DS poll overestimated the percentage by about 10 points. This seems to be a theme. Plus as you say, Rex has now become the main target for the crowd's ire. He's in trouble if he is ever put up again.
I'm thinking a four-way at the moment Lisa, Mikey, Rex and Stuart

Unfortunately, I think Rachel will be up next week after the cake decision debacle.
Probably with Rex Sara and Nicole. :D

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emptybox - 10/8/2008 00:54
Unfortunately, I think Rachel will be up next week after the cake decision debacle.
Probably with Rex Sara and Nicole. :D



It could definitely change nominations this week but, on the plus side, I think it will make Rachel more popular with the public and some of her main competition less popular. I haven't seen it but I wouldn't be surprised if Darnell's popularity takes a serious nosedive after the way he's been treating both Sara and Rachel recently.

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Posted 10/8/2008 10:19 (#30211 - in reply to #29174)
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Darnell was not very nice to Rachel yesterday and joined in with Rex in giving Rachel a hard time.  He did not do his chances of winning any good.  How a cake caused such a big argument god knows. 

He has nothing to fear for how he has behaved towards Sara.  Lisa seemed to be Sara's only ally in the house yesterday morning after the way Sara behaved Friday night.  Sara would get evicted in a head to head against any of the other housemates apart from probably Rex and Nicole and she will get a poor reception.

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Julian - 9/8/2008 01:42
secrethousemate - 8/8/2008 23:12 Once again the DS poll overestimated the percentage by about 10 points. This seems to be a theme. Plus as you say, Rex has now become the main target for the crowd's ire. He's in trouble if he is ever put up again.
I'm thinking a four-way at the moment Lisa, Mikey, Rex and Stuart

Sara is bound to be nominated next week.  She has been leading Darnell up the garden path again and some of the other housemates have even called her for it.  Darnell has also found out that she has told some of the housemates that she fancies Stuart and is telling him lies when she says that she does not. 

 



except she hasnt been leading him up any path and the treatment of her and other females in the house is disgusting. They are seen as playthings for the men and are treated like rubbish. Watching the h/ls last night darnell following Rex's lead acted pahetically and Sara was completely correct. He says he doesnt fancy her, he says that he has a g/f, then he says he hasnt, then he says he never had one, then he claims there is someone he feels strongly for outside. And yet shes the player.

She is entitled to like whoever she wants. Shes single and if she wants to have fun with other people that doesnt mean she has to be locked to the hip to them. She has done nothing wrong at all, shes fun bubbly and when Rex could her a "stopout" with Mo and darnell laughing and cheering and high fiving I was disgusted that they should be allowed to do so. Funny though as she has never even kissed anyone taken off any clothing or even been in a bikini yet she gets spoken in that way, because she is fun.

And if the h/ls show an accurate reflection of last nights feed, hopefully people are going to turn off Darnell as well as Rex and Mo, as their behaviour was disgusting last night.
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premierscfc - 10/8/2008 10:19

Darnell was not very nice to Rachel yesterday and joined in with Rex in giving Rachel a hard time.  He did not do his chances of winning any good.  How a cake caused such a big argument god knows. 

He has nothing to fear for how he has behaved towards Sara.  Lisa seemed to be Sara's only ally in the house yesterday morning after the way Sara behaved Friday night.  Sara would get evicted in a head to head against any of the other housemates apart from probably Rex and Nicole and she will get a poor reception.



unfortunately so, but as we see each year the sexism that is alive and well is over powering at times.

BTW Kat also is her ally. But as for the men they are just rancid nobodies who treat women like we were still in the 19th century
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For someone who says and I quote "I don't want to sleep in a boy's bed because they will try and have sex with me" she spends an awful lot of time in boys beds.  She should make her mind up what she thinks and wants.  She has been sending out lots of mixed signals and she is old enough to realise what she is doing.  She is the girl Aisleyne was wrongly accused of being.
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Posted 10/8/2008 14:55 (#30216 - in reply to #30215)
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I am really happy to agree with Bradley here

I don't think Sara is trying to lead anyone on, I think her flirting is intended as harmless fun. The comment about not sleeping in Darnell's bed was just friendly banter based on his earlier comments about his daily 'glories'. Darnell took it completely the wrong way and overreacted in his usual self-righteous and self-destructive manner.

I'm beginning to wonder how I ever liked him

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Posted 10/8/2008 15:20 (#30217 - in reply to #30215)
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For someone who says and I quote "I don't want to sleep in a boy's bed because they will try and have sex with me" she spends an awful lot of time in boys beds.  She should make her mind up what she thinks and wants.  She has been sending out lots of mixed signals and she is old enough to realise what she is doing.  She is the girl Aisleyne was wrongly accused of being.


completely wrong. She has done absolutely nothing. Is a very old fashion ideal about women. He can flirt with any number of girls whether they are drunk or not, but not women. What happened on last nights h/ls was disgusting and the way the boys treated her was demeaning and wrong. as for her spending a lot of time in boys beds, exactl how much is a lot???? especially when absolutely nothing happens in there. Just the same as the comments about Ais when she was in bed with Pete and Spirol. Nothing happened then or now.

The only one that has constantly lied is Darnell, changing whether he does or doesnt have a g/f, whether its serious or not. There is nothing wrong with Sara getting in to bed with any of the guys, even if she wanted to do something as well.... SHES SINGLE. Who knows whether Darnell is or if he just likes to go for women when they are drunk, as he did with Bex and Sara. The fact that she has done nothing in the beds either (in fact, in the house full stop in relation to sexual behaviour) her being label as a "stopout" was disgusting.

Also you state shes old enough to know whats she is doing? But isnt she the same age as Darnell? Isnt he old enough to stop acting like a smacked ar*e?

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Julian - 10/8/2008 14:55

I am really happy to agree with Bradley here

I don't think Sara is trying to lead anyone on, I think her flirting is intended as harmless fun. The comment about not sleeping in Darnell's bed was just friendly banter based on his earlier comments about his daily 'glories'. Darnell took it completely the wrong way and overreacted in his usual self-righteous and self-destructive manner.

I'm beginning to wonder how I ever liked him

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thats better, you see you dont have to apologise
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Can someone tell me why Sara got in Darnell's bed on Friday night especially after she said what she did about not wanting to sleep in boys beds which was a comment directed at Darnell. 
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i didnt watch it..what happened?
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sophie - 10/8/2008 15:34 i didnt watch it..what happened?

Sara and Darnell had another row  when it became clear that Sara had told half the house she fancied Stuart.  Darnell went to bed and took the stuffed donkey with him.  Sara later got in Darnell's bed and asked what the donkey was doing in his bed and he replied I am the house pervert making reference to her earlier comments about not wanting to sleep in boys beds. 

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I've gone off Darnell over the past few days. I thought he had a genuine friendship with Sara, but he's happy to use her harmless comment to feed his endless desire to look like a victim - both to the viewers and his fellow housemates. I don't think for one second that her comment was intended to be taken seriously - I don't think anyone would be foolish enough to say something like that and mean it, especially not Sara who seems like a smart girl.

Darnell will get nowhere in life while he continues to have such a chip on his shoulder, as eventually those around him will just get tired of his pathetic reactions to things and constant self-pitying behaviour.

I actually saw more evidence to back up the feeble 'leading him on' line when it came to Aisleyne in BB7 than Sara, although I didn't agree with the interpretation. Sara has done nothing.
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dannyk - 10/8/2008 16:44 I've gone off Darnell over the past few days. I thought he had a genuine friendship with Sara, but he's happy to use her harmless comment to feed his endless desire to look like a victim - both to the viewers and his fellow housemates. I don't think for one second that her comment was intended to be taken seriously - I don't think anyone would be foolish enough to say something like that and mean it, especially not Sara who seems like a smart girl. Darnell will get nowhere in life while he continues to have such a chip on his shoulder, as eventually those around him will just get tired of his pathetic reactions to things and constant self-pitying behaviour. I actually saw more evidence to back up the feeble 'leading him on' line when it came to Aisleyne in BB7 than Sara, although I didn't agree with the interpretation. Sara has done nothing.

 

Can you explain why Sara got in Darnell's bed Friday night?  Once Aisleyne had her misunderstanding with Spiral she never shared a bed with him again.  Sara knows exactly what Darnell thinks and she continues to play with his emotions.  He denied that he fancies Sara after his first advances were rejected but that is just to save face but Sara is no naive teenager and knows exactly what he thinks.  She turned him down and she should leave it at that.

As for Sara's harmeless comment which one do you mean?  The one she said to Stuart when she got in his bed and said she was scared Darnell would feel her up or the one about not wanting to sleep in boys beds.

The reason the other house mates turned on her on yesterday's live feed is because she is telling Darnell one thing and telling the other house mates something else.  Why would she be doing that if she was being honest.  She fancies Stuart, Darnell knows it, Stuart knows it, the other house mates know it yet she keeps playing Darnell.  I can't do with Rex but he was spot on with what he said about Sara using Darnell. 

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Tonight's highlights only served to solidify my opinion on this whole situation. If Sara fancies Stuart it's her business, if she chooses to tell the world it's her business, if she chooses to tell nobody it's her business, and if she chooses to tell certain housemates it's her business. If Darnell is tired of only ever being friends with girls then boo hoo. I don't see why Sara should be demonised for it.

As for sleeping in his bed, I just don't think it's a big deal. It would probably be wise to keep her distance, but I don't think it's part of some elaborate plot. You could look for an ulterior motive in anything - for example, why did Aisleyne continue to sleep in Pete's bed when she knew Nikki was interested in him? Like Sara, because she thought it was no big deal.

The treatment of Rachel in tonight's show was awful. I wish she'd stand up for herself a bit more though. I think she's disappointed in Rex and how he treats her but at least she hasn't let him grind her down, which seems to be his aim.
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Posted 10/8/2008 23:37 (#30225 - in reply to #30224)
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dannyk - 10/8/2008 23:06
The treatment of Rachel in tonight's show was awful. I wish she'd stand up for herself a bit more though. I think she's disappointed in Rex and how he treats her but at least she hasn't let him grind her down, which seems to be his aim.


Rachel does stand up for herself with Rex although they often don't show it on the highlights. Besides, until this last row, as they revealed on Diary Room Uncut, she genuinely thought that Rex just liked to tease her and that he still liked her. Only now is she starting to think that he actually dislikes her for real.

Rex wasn't the only one. Darnell, called her a piece of trash, last night, which I notice they chose only to hint at. Kathreya told him off for it in a late night chat in which he rejected Kathreya, Sara and Rachel's friendship as essentially meaningless in another 'poor me' speech.

I'm quite sure Rachel put her side of the argument across enough times last night but they just wanted to vent their wounded pride even though half of them would have done the same thing to help Kathreya or Nicole and the other half should have

Stuart seemed to be the only member of heaven to recognize how badly they were laying into Rachel and called a stop to it. Which is possibly why he's closing the gap rapidly with the leaders in the betting odds.

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Posted 11/8/2008 01:38 (#30226 - in reply to #30219)
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Can someone tell me why Sara got in Darnell's bed on Friday night especially after she said what she did about not wanting to sleep in boys beds which was a comment directed at Darnell. 


because she was having a laugh maybe. As well as Darnell acting the poor me, might have made her feel she had to so as to prove to him it wasnt the case.

Ais spent many a night in bed with men in BB7 and just like Sara now, did nothing, yet others accuse her of all types of things. Boy shes getting more and more similiar to Ais, in relation to peoples comments, each day.

The main point you seem to miss is she did nothing, Darnell acts pathetically and changes his story every five minutes and like anyone else in the world it takes two to tango. If Darnell "doesnt not fancy her" (he is older than 10 isnt he?), then if she doesnt not not fancy him, then its boo hoo sucks to Darnell. But who knows what Darnell thinks. bex was his type when she was drunk, yet he isnt called all the names under the sun.

She likes him as a friend, thats all. Thats what he always said to. But then he does have a g/f, doesnt have a g/f, has never had a g/f or has someone special on the outside named Vanessa, or whatever todays version is, so its easy to not know where you stand with him
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Posted 11/8/2008 01:46 (#30227 - in reply to #30223)
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Quote:"Can you explain why Sara got in Darnell's bed Friday night?"

Can you explain why she shouldnt? Nothing happened so why the problem?

quote:"As for Sara's harmeless comment which one do you mean? The one she said to Stuart when she got in his bed and said she was scared Darnell would feel her up or the one about not wanting to sleep in boys beds."

Because to anyone watching bar people who seem to have some sort of blind spot about it, she was joking. Besides she is single and can get into any man's bed she wants to if they allow.

Quote:"The reason the other house mates turned on her on yesterday's live feed is because she is telling Darnell one thing and telling the other house mates something else"

No they turned on her because lead by Rex they treat women like sh*t. And that before we get to the point of when Sara left upset to have a cigarette the boys had a good laugh and said how easy it was to wind her up. They also high fived each other for Rex basically calling her a sl**.

personally Sara has done nothing wrong and is like the other women in the house being treated like the plaything for the men.

The whole of the boys ganged up against Rachel for 2 hours last night, does that mean it was Rachels fault that Rex acted like normal around women or that Darnell called Rachell a "piece of trash". As you seem to feel if the majority of the house go for someone then they are right, I presume you agree with that sort of behaviour and that Rachel is a piece of trash?

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Quote:"She fancies Stuart, Darnell knows it, Stuart knows it, the other house mates know it yet she keeps playing Darnell"

And how is she doing that.... by being his friend? And her behaviour to him pales into insignificance to the disgusting way he treated her when he was HoH. That convenantely forgotten all the time
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Posted 11/8/2008 07:51 (#30229 - in reply to #29174)
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Darnell has some major hangups about himself. He is insecure in so many ways, and it comes out in frustration especially in how he sometimes talks to people. Yes he has made mistakes and at times his behaviour has been below par. That said all in all I think his bark is worse than his bite IMHO. I think deep down he's looking for a girlfriend and he is obviously tired of always being the shoulder girls cry on. I don't think he is bad all in all, he just has a victim mentality, because of what he experiences. Okay everyone has been through stuff and not everyone acts that way but that is just him. If Sara really cares about Darnell as a "friend," then she should stop teasing him and playing on his insecurities. I don't think Sara really cares about him that much, she loves the attention and enjoys being desired IMHO. Sara says in her own words that "She is a big flirt but hasn't been in love or even had a significant relationship."(Personally I don't wonder why after seeing how she behaves). That statement alone gives so much away about her. It's interesting that she says she fancies Stuart, in my observations Stuart seems laid back about it all, perhaps that's why she's pursuing him. What if Stuart started to chase her would she back off. It's funny how everything is a joke to her. She shouts in someones face (that was scary) and the next morning says she was only joking. Funny..... I think not. She is a scary character who plays dangerous games. (I don't trust her at all) Yes she can be who she wants to be that's her choice, but not everyone is going to accept the way she is hence all the arguments. I wouldn't be surprised if she nominates Darnell, then again Darnell may nominate her.

Both her and Darnell have made mistakes but my guess is that Sara will come off a lot worse. Only time will tell.............

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for example, why did Aisleyne continue to sleep in Pete's bed when she knew Nikki was interested in him? Like Sara, because she thought it was no big deal.



There's a big difference Ash did not have feelings for Pete from what I can remember. (Therefore Nikki had nothing to fear.) But Sara knows full well that Darnell has feelings for her and plays with his emotions, and then accuses him at the same time. She comes across as very calculating IMHO.


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Posted 11/8/2008 08:38 (#30231 - in reply to #30227)
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bradley27 - 11/8/2008 01:46 Quote:"Can you explain why Sara got in Darnell's bed Friday night?" Can you explain why she shouldnt? Nothing happened so why the problem? quote:"

They had had another big argument about Darnell fancying her earlier that night.  She had basically accused him of being a sex pest and then later the same night she gets into his bed.  Is that reasonable behaviour for an adult?

I am at a loss as to how people can compare Sara's behaviour to Aisleyne's.  As soon as Ash found out how Spiral felt and they had their misunderstanding she never shared a bed with him again.  She only shared Pete's bed once when he invited her and at that time she did not know that Pete fancied Nikki.

Just to make things clear my point is not to defend Darnell, if Sara had done this to anybody in the house I would feel the same way.  Darnell should get a grip and tell her to do a running jump.

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Posted 11/8/2008 12:05 (#30235 - in reply to #30231)
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premierscfc - 11/8/2008 08:38
They had had another big argument about Darnell fancying her earlier that night.  She had basically accused him of being a sex pest and then later the same night she gets into his bed.  Is that reasonable behaviour for an adult


She didn't accuse him of being a sex pest she made a joking remark which he took the wrong way.

I think both Sara and Darnell are giving each other mixed signals. Sara did fancy Stu, physically, but Stuart is clearly not interested. I think she really likes Darnell and may very well be attracted to him but Darnell has a girlfriend who he started seeing a week before going into hiding for BB and who he really liked but who he doesn't believe will be waiting for him (despite the fact that she said she would). This is why he keeps giving mixed signals to Sara.

Darnell keeps getting upset because Darnell is way too over-sensitive and takes everything seriously when it isn't meant to be serious. Sara is too flirty with Darnell if she isn't interested him but I'm not convinced that she isn't interested in him.

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Posted 11/8/2008 12:13 (#30236 - in reply to #30235)
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Julian - 11/8/2008 12:05
premierscfc - 11/8/2008 08:38 They had had another big argument about Darnell fancying her earlier that night. She had basically accused him of being a sex pest and then later the same night she gets into his bed. Is that reasonable behaviour for an adult
She didn't accuse him of being a sex pest she made a joking remark which he took the wrong way. I think both Sara and Darnell are giving each other mixed signals. Sara did fancy Stu, physically, but Stuart is clearly not interested. I think she really likes Darnell and may very well be attracted to him but Darnell has a girlfriend who he started seeing a week before going into hiding for BB and who he really liked but who he doesn't believe will be waiting for him (despite the fact that she said she would). This is why he keeps giving mixed signals to Sara. Darnell keeps getting upset because Darnell is way too over-sensitive and takes everything seriously when it isn't meant to be serious. Sara is too flirty with Darnell if she isn't interested him but I'm not convinced that she isn't interested in him. Regards Julian

 

Sara had also said to Stuart and the rest of the viewers watching that she was frightened that Darnell "would feel her up" if she got into bed with him.  I suppose that was just a joke as well.   

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Posted 11/8/2008 14:32 (#30240 - in reply to #30236)
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premierscfc - 11/8/2008 12:13
Sara had also said to Stuart and the rest of the viewers watching that she was frightened that Darnell "would feel her up" if she got into bed with him.  I suppose that was just a joke as well.  


I don't remember that comment specifically (unless you mean the one where she said he would have sex with her if she got in the bed) but I suspect it was a joke, yes. Darnell has been talking to her about his sexual frustration in the house so he's a prime target for that kind of ribbing. What I'm quite sure it wasn't was a malicious attempt to make Darnell look bad. I really don't see that in her at all.

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Julian - 11/8/2008 14:32
premierscfc - 11/8/2008 12:13 Sara had also said to Stuart and the rest of the viewers watching that she was frightened that Darnell "would feel her up" if she got into bed with him. I suppose that was just a joke as well.
I don't remember that comment specifically (unless you mean the one where she said he would have sex with her if she got in the bed) but I suspect it was a joke, yes. Darnell has been talking to her about his sexual frustration in the house so he's a prime target for that kind of ribbing. What I'm quite sure it wasn't was a malicious attempt to make Darnell look bad. I really don't see that in her at all. Regards Julian

It was when she got in Stuarts bed, the night Darnell jumped the barrier into Hell.  Darnell does not know she said it, he asked what she was saying to Stuart and she lied saying they were talking about the letters from home.  The fact it was behind Darnell's back rules out her joking with Darnell. 

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Here's my interpretation of that incident:

When I watched it, it seemed to me that Darnell was getting overly familiar and that Sara was worried that her flirting had given him the wrong idea. She jumped into Stuart's bed as a means of giving Darnell the message that she wasn't interested in him in that way and she asked Stuart if the house thought she fancied Darnell because the incident caused her to think that she'd been giving Darnell the wrong kind of signals and wanted to check whether Stuart thought the same.

Darnell took this as a humiliating rejection which, in a way it was, but Sara hadn't meant to give him those signals in the first place and his misinterpretation of them was unfortunate but not Sara's fault. Her reaction to his advances was more panic than anything. She lied to him later to make him feel better and because she didn't want to be on non-speaking terms with someone she liked so much. If she'd told the truth it would have been like rubbing salt in the wound and she'd have had an even tougher time bringing him out of his sulk.

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Julian - 11/8/2008 16:13 Here's my interpretation of that incident: When I watched it, it seemed to me that Darnell was getting overly familiar and that Sara was worried that her flirting had given him the wrong idea. She jumped into Stuart's bed as a means of giving Darnell the message that she wasn't interested in him in that way and she asked Stuart if the house thought she fancied Darnell because the incident caused her to think that she'd been giving Darnell the wrong kind of signals and wanted to check whether Stuart thought the same. Darnell took this as a humiliating rejection which, in a way it was, but Sara hadn't meant to give him those signals in the first place and his misinterpretation of them was unfortunate but not Sara's fault. Her reaction to his advances was more panic than anything. She lied to him later to make him feel better and because she didn't want to be on non-speaking terms with someone she liked so much. If she'd told the truth it would have been like rubbing salt in the wound and she'd have had an even tougher time bringing him out of his sulk. Regards Julian

I can accept all that and that should have been the end of it.  Where I find fault with Sara is how she has been with Darnell since.  She may only be flirting but she should not flirt with someone who she knows she has given the wrong idea to before.  You should learn from the misunderstanding and move on but no, Sara has to carry on flirting with Darnell despite previously worrying about giving out the wrong signals with exactly the same results as the first time.  If you were worried someone you were flirting with was getting overly familiar with you and it ended up in a row would you flirt with them again? 

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I blow hot and cold over Sara but at the moment I feel a bit sorry for her.

I think she is naturally flirty with all the guys in the house but Darnell does fancy her. Problem is she fancies Stuart.

Its a hard situation for Darnell because he fancies her but Sara doesn't fancy him so she must feel bad even though nobody is to blame.

I can't work out whether Stuart fancies her or not
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I can accept all that and that should have been the end of it.  Where I find fault with Sara is how she has been with Darnell since.  She may only be flirting but she should not flirt with someone who she knows she has given the wrong idea to before.  You should learn from the misunderstanding and move on but no, Sara has to carry on flirting with Darnell despite previously worrying about giving out the wrong signals with exactly the same results as the first time.  If you were worried someone you were flirting with was getting overly familiar with you and it ended up in a row would you flirt with them again? 



I got the feeling they had both discussed it and made it clear that neither of them fancies the other, which is what gave Sara the go ahead to carry on with her usual behaviour which, to her, was just harmless fun. Darnell, however, was not being honest when he said he didn't fancy her (as he admitted to her later). He basically took her further comments as more rejection even though, as Sara pointed out (in her inimitable style), they were never an item in the first place so how could she have rejected him!

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Posted 11/8/2008 19:35 (#30247 - in reply to #30244)
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Saj - 11/8/2008 17:55
I can't work out whether Stuart fancies her or not


I think it's pretty clear that he doesn't. He hasn't returned her flirting at all and Dale said in his interview that Stuart's thoughts were all with his ex back home.

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bradley27 - 11/8/2008 01:46 Quote:"Can you explain why Sara got in Darnell's bed Friday night?" Can you explain why she shouldnt? Nothing happened so why the problem? quote:"

They had had another big argument about Darnell fancying her earlier that night.  She had basically accused him of being a sex pest and then later the same night she gets into his bed.  Is that reasonable behaviour for an adult?

I am at a loss as to how people can compare Sara's behaviour to Aisleyne's.  As soon as Ash found out how Spiral felt and they had their misunderstanding she never shared a bed with him again.  She only shared Pete's bed once when he invited her and at that time she did not know that Pete fancied Nikki.

Just to make things clear my point is not to defend Darnell, if Sara had done this to anybody in the house I would feel the same way.  Darnell should get a grip and tell her to do a running jump.



But why should she be told to take a running jump when she hasnt done anything. And she most definately did not call him a sex pest seriously, its called mucking around. Put it this way she has been called a lot worse in that house. Even the night of his first sulk, she was joking around. It seems like the men can joke around and call women what they like but then men cant.

And the most important thing to remember in this is nothing happened. Men and women can share beds without the need for anything to happen. And surely the fact that she got into his bed after supposedly seriously calling him a "sex pest" shows that she cant have been serious. You wouldnt get into bed with someone you actually thought was one would you?
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Posted 11/8/2008 19:47 (#30249 - in reply to #30235)
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premierscfc - 11/8/2008 08:38
They had had another big argument about Darnell fancying her earlier that night.  She had basically accused him of being a sex pest and then later the same night she gets into his bed.  Is that reasonable behaviour for an adult


She didn't accuse him of being a sex pest she made a joking remark which he took the wrong way.

I think both Sara and Darnell are giving each other mixed signals. Sara did fancy Stu, physically, but Stuart is clearly not interested. I think she really likes Darnell and may very well be attracted to him but Darnell has a girlfriend who he started seeing a week before going into hiding for BB and who he really liked but who he doesn't believe will be waiting for him (despite the fact that she said she would). This is why he keeps giving mixed signals to Sara.

Darnell keeps getting upset because Darnell is way too over-sensitive and takes everything seriously when it isn't meant to be serious. Sara is too flirty with Darnell if she isn't interested him but I'm not convinced that she isn't interested in him.

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the trouble is Darnell sometimes has a g/f, other times doesnt have one, etc, etc.... how is anyone to know, especially when he says he doesnt fancy her.

IMO they arent suitable for each other as a couple either. They are quite similiar needy people. I did hear that she was mugged a little while ago and her friends have said she has not liked being on her own since. Maybe thats why she is overly close, but thats not to bad a thing. Either way, I think they both need someone to look after them and therefore wouldnt work s a partnership but could be good friends. Thats just my take on a side issue
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Posted 11/8/2008 19:52 (#30250 - in reply to #30236)
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Julian - 11/8/2008 12:05
premierscfc - 11/8/2008 08:38 They had had another big argument about Darnell fancying her earlier that night. She had basically accused him of being a sex pest and then later the same night she gets into his bed. Is that reasonable behaviour for an adult
She didn't accuse him of being a sex pest she made a joking remark which he took the wrong way. I think both Sara and Darnell are giving each other mixed signals. Sara did fancy Stu, physically, but Stuart is clearly not interested. I think she really likes Darnell and may very well be attracted to him but Darnell has a girlfriend who he started seeing a week before going into hiding for BB and who he really liked but who he doesn't believe will be waiting for him (despite the fact that she said she would). This is why he keeps giving mixed signals to Sara. Darnell keeps getting upset because Darnell is way too over-sensitive and takes everything seriously when it isn't meant to be serious. Sara is too flirty with Darnell if she isn't interested him but I'm not convinced that she isn't interested in him. Regards Julian

 

Sara had also said to Stuart and the rest of the viewers watching that she was frightened that Darnell "would feel her up" if she got into bed with him.  I suppose that was just a joke as well.   



yes it was........ tell me if she was serious would she then share a bed with him? Of course not. They all rip each other and she has been at the receiving end ore than others. Shes entitled to give it back a bit. The trouble is, and its becoming clearer to me each time Darnell says anything, he is just purely worried about what the people viewing with think. A good example of this was when he called Rachel a piece of trash. When he reflected on it he didnt say that he was upset how bad he had been to her, he was upset about what people would think seeing him say that. And I believe thats the problem when Sara has joked with him. He worries that is what people watching will think
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Posted 11/8/2008 19:55 (#30251 - in reply to #30241)
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Julian - 11/8/2008 14:32
premierscfc - 11/8/2008 12:13 Sara had also said to Stuart and the rest of the viewers watching that she was frightened that Darnell "would feel her up" if she got into bed with him. I suppose that was just a joke as well.
I don't remember that comment specifically (unless you mean the one where she said he would have sex with her if she got in the bed) but I suspect it was a joke, yes. Darnell has been talking to her about his sexual frustration in the house so he's a prime target for that kind of ribbing. What I'm quite sure it wasn't was a malicious attempt to make Darnell look bad. I really don't see that in her at all. Regards Julian

It was when she got in Stuarts bed, the night Darnell jumped the barrier into Hell.  Darnell does not know she said it, he asked what she was saying to Stuart and she lied saying they were talking about the letters from home.  The fact it was behind Darnell's back rules out her joking with Darnell. 


She lied to save his feelings and for it not to start another bout of pity from him. Thats a pretty normal lie you would tell someone particularly if they make a fuss about things so much. Could you imagine how he would have been if she said that she asked Stu about whether Darnell fancied her and whether others thought she fancied him? Darnell would still be sulking! Its called a white lie and very sensible that she did it
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I can accept all that and that should have been the end of it.  Where I find fault with Sara is how she has been with Darnell since.  She may only be flirting but she should not flirt with someone who she knows she has given the wrong idea to before.  You should learn from the misunderstanding and move on but no, Sara has to carry on flirting with Darnell despite previously worrying about giving out the wrong signals with exactly the same results as the first time.  If you were worried someone you were flirting with was getting overly familiar with you and it ended up in a row would you flirt with them again? 



But its Darnell at fault, not her. She is flirty with most people there, men and women, thats her friendly nature. I dont know maybe Australians are a little more that way than we are, but she hasnt done anything wrong and he would have been moaning about it if she had decided to keep her distance from then on. She has to feel relax and she acts like she has always acted. Its for Darnell to stop thinking theres anything more to it, especially as he doesnt fancy her, doesnt not fancy her, has a g/f, doesnt have a g/f, etc, etc.

Hes the liar not her
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Posted 11/8/2008 20:00 (#30253 - in reply to #30244)
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I blow hot and cold over Sara but at the moment I feel a bit sorry for her.

I think she is naturally flirty with all the guys in the house but Darnell does fancy her. Problem is she fancies Stuart.

Its a hard situation for Darnell because he fancies her but Sara doesn't fancy him so she must feel bad even though nobody is to blame.

I can't work out whether Stuart fancies her or not


exactly and if stu doesnt, she, as an adult has to accept that. The trouble is Darnell doesnt or cant.

Note: Shes quite flirty with the women as well
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Posted 11/8/2008 20:02 (#30255 - in reply to #30247)
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Saj - 11/8/2008 17:55
I can't work out whether Stuart fancies her or not


I think it's pretty clear that he doesn't. He hasn't returned her flirting at all and Dale said in his interview that Stuart's thoughts were all with his ex back home.

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I thought so to, but I'm not so sure now. However I dont trust Stu one bit, so I doubt if we will ever get to know exactly how he feels.
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Posted 11/8/2008 20:04 (#30257 - in reply to #30251)
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premierscfc - 11/8/2008 12:13 Sara had also said to Stuart and the rest of the viewers watching that she was frightened that Darnell "would feel her up" if she got into bed with him. I suppose that was just a joke as well.
I don't remember that comment specifically (unless you mean the one where she said he would have sex with her if she got in the bed) but I suspect it was a joke, yes. Darnell has been talking to her about his sexual frustration in the house so he's a prime target for that kind of ribbing. What I'm quite sure it wasn't was a malicious attempt to make Darnell look bad. I really don't see that in her at all. Regards Julian

It was when she got in Stuarts bed, the night Darnell jumped the barrier into Hell. Darnell does not know she said it, he asked what she was saying to Stuart and she lied saying they were talking about the letters from home. The fact it was behind Darnell's back rules out her joking with Darnell.

She lied to save his feelings and for it not to start another bout of pity from him. Thats a pretty normal lie you would tell someone particularly if they make a fuss about things so much. Could you imagine how he would have been if she said that she asked Stu about whether Darnell fancied her and whether others thought she fancied him? Darnell would still be sulking! Its called a white lie and very sensible that she did it

 

So she lied to save Darnell's feelings therefore she knows how he feels.  She then carries on flirting with him knowing how he feels.  I think that says it all. 

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premierscfc - 11/8/2008 20:04
So she lied to save Darnell's feelings therefore she knows how he feels.  She then carries on flirting with him knowing how he feels.  I think that says it all. 


They talked and established that he didn't fancy her and that she didn't fancy him but that they wanted to continue hugging etc. Having established these ground rules there shouldn't have been any problem with her continuing to flirt with him and, in fact, as far as I could tell, there weren't any.

The second time he flipped had nothing to do with flirting or leading him on. When she made a joke about not getting into his bed for fear he'd have sex with her there is no way that she meant that seriously. It was just a joke referring to his previous confession about how sexually frustrated he was in the house. Nobody would have taken a comment like that seriously unless they were incredibly over-sensitive and insecure. Darnell's reaction to that was entirely Darnell's problem and not Sara's fault at all.

By the way, did you see Darnell talking to Lisa about Kathreya on the highlights tonight? I couldn't believe how he turned on someone who was supposed to be a close friend. I've been steadily losing respect for Darnell for a few weeks now but that really was the last straw. I think Aisleyne needs to pick a new favourite

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Darnell has certainly been in self destruct mode recently and the "savvy" guy who quickly sussed out what was going on with the whisper club in the early weeks needs to comeback soon.  I am not so sure that Kathreya is his friend though.  In retrospect we may look back on Kathreya as one of the biggest gameplayers of all time.  She does try and manipulate other peoples opinions to suit her own come nomination day and a lot of people who "have broken her heart" seem to be up for eviction.  Where has Kathreya been when the housemates have been giving Rachel a hard time? 

In my opinion the only one who deserves an apology from Darnell is Rachel.  I do believe that what you see is what you get from her and she is genuine in how she views her friendships in the house.  Unfortunately she is going to get hurt again as it becomes apparent to her that people she regards as friends are not her friend.  It seems public opinion is going Rachels way and I am delighted with that.  It looks like she is up for eviction this week against Stuart and if we believe what Stuart says (I don't) about wanting to go home then he should get his wish granted this week.

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It seems public opinion is going Rachels way and I am delighted with that.  It looks like she is up for eviction this week against Stuart and if we believe what Stuart says (I don't) about wanting to go home then he should get his wish granted this week.


I'm also pleasantly surprised to see Rachel's popularity on the rise. I'm quite sure Stuart wants to go home so with any luck even his fans, if they really like him, will vote to evict him

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Posted 12/8/2008 17:13 (#30277 - in reply to #30257)
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premierscfc - 11/8/2008 12:13 Sara had also said to Stuart and the rest of the viewers watching that she was frightened that Darnell "would feel her up" if she got into bed with him. I suppose that was just a joke as well.
I don't remember that comment specifically (unless you mean the one where she said he would have sex with her if she got in the bed) but I suspect it was a joke, yes. Darnell has been talking to her about his sexual frustration in the house so he's a prime target for that kind of ribbing. What I'm quite sure it wasn't was a malicious attempt to make Darnell look bad. I really don't see that in her at all. Regards Julian

It was when she got in Stuarts bed, the night Darnell jumped the barrier into Hell. Darnell does not know she said it, he asked what she was saying to Stuart and she lied saying they were talking about the letters from home. The fact it was behind Darnell's back rules out her joking with Darnell.

She lied to save his feelings and for it not to start another bout of pity from him. Thats a pretty normal lie you would tell someone particularly if they make a fuss about things so much. Could you imagine how he would have been if she said that she asked Stu about whether Darnell fancied her and whether others thought she fancied him? Darnell would still be sulking! Its called a white lie and very sensible that she did it

 

So she lied to save Darnell's feelings therefore she knows how he feels.  She then carries on flirting with him knowing how he feels.  I think that says it all. 



no she carries on being a friend, especially as he told her he didnt fancy her.... later to change to "dont not fancy" (something a 10 year old might say). however why should she change. She is who she is, they sorted it out so why should she need to not be who she is? Surely it was up to him to not get worked up about it again. We arent dealing with 10 year olds, they are both in their mid 20s
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Posted 12/8/2008 17:16 (#30278 - in reply to #30263)
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By the way, did you see Darnell talking to Lisa about Kathreya on the highlights tonight? I couldn't believe how he turned on someone who was supposed to be a close friend. I've been steadily losing respect for Darnell for a few weeks now but that really was the last straw. I think Aisleyne needs to pick a new favourite

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he tends to do that if he cant get his way with someone. Bex was his kind of girl when she was drunk. Yet strangely some want to blame the women rather than the man who continues to lie or has stopped because no one knows the truth with him.

And its winding me up with him now that he doesnt seem upset about doing things, more that he is upset about how it will make him look to the viewers.
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Posted 12/8/2008 17:20 (#30279 - in reply to #30265)
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Darnell has certainly been in self destruct mode recently and the "savvy" guy who quickly sussed out what was going on with the whisper club in the early weeks needs to comeback soon.  I am not so sure that Kathreya is his friend though.  In retrospect we may look back on Kathreya as one of the biggest gameplayers of all time.  She does try and manipulate other peoples opinions to suit her own come nomination day and a lot of people who "have broken her heart" seem to be up for eviction.  Where has Kathreya been when the housemates have been giving Rachel a hard time? 

In my opinion the only one who deserves an apology from Darnell is Rachel.  I do believe that what you see is what you get from her and she is genuine in how she views her friendships in the house.  Unfortunately she is going to get hurt again as it becomes apparent to her that people she regards as friends are not her friend.  It seems public opinion is going Rachels way and I am delighted with that.  It looks like she is up for eviction this week against Stuart and if we believe what Stuart says (I don't) about wanting to go home then he should get his wish granted this week.



I am really worried about this eviction. I have a bad feeling. We know its mainly young women who vote and that we have learnt over the years just how shallow they can be (and it was meant to be us men that were), I can see Stu winning this vote and you only have to look how often a woman h/m beats a male h/m in the past.

I know what the polls are saying but I am not confident on this one.

Strange with Stu though, since he stayed in last week, he hasnt referred to his daughter and going once.
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Posted 12/8/2008 17:27 (#30280 - in reply to #30279)
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premierscfc - 12/8/2008 08:28

Darnell has certainly been in self destruct mode recently and the "savvy" guy who quickly sussed out what was going on with the whisper club in the early weeks needs to comeback soon. I am not so sure that Kathreya is his friend though. In retrospect we may look back on Kathreya as one of the biggest gameplayers of all time. She does try and manipulate other peoples opinions to suit her own come nomination day and a lot of people who "have broken her heart" seem to be up for eviction. Where has Kathreya been when the housemates have been giving Rachel a hard time?

In my opinion the only one who deserves an apology from Darnell is Rachel. I do believe that what you see is what you get from her and she is genuine in how she views her friendships in the house. Unfortunately she is going to get hurt again as it becomes apparent to her that people she regards as friends are not her friend. It seems public opinion is going Rachels way and I am delighted with that. It looks like she is up for eviction this week against Stuart and if we believe what Stuart says (I don't) about wanting to go home then he should get his wish granted this week.

I am really worried about this eviction. I have a bad feeling. We know its mainly young women who vote and that we have learnt over the years just how shallow they can be (and it was meant to be us men that were), I can see Stu winning this vote and you only have to look how often a woman h/m beats a male h/m in the past. I know what the polls are saying but I am not confident on this one. Strange with Stu though, since he stayed in last week, he hasnt referred to his daughter and going once.

 

I think it will be close with Stu benefiting from the usual male v female effect but I think Rachel will survive in a close vote.  Rachel fans can not be complacent though and have to vote by phone and not just in online polls.  Stu is a player and never wanted to go despite him saying he did.  I bet he gets the photo of his daughter out now though to come across as a sensitive guy hoping that we forget that it was him that upped the stakes in spitgate after it had all been sorted out once.

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Posted 12/8/2008 18:14 (#30282 - in reply to #30280)
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Stuart has done everything he can to get nominated. If he's just pretending why would he have voted how he voted last week? He deliberately went for popular people to ensure he went up.

He is currently, on the live feed, swearing blind that he wants to go. If he wanted to stay why would he want the public to think he wants to go? It's not a sensible tactic for someone who wants to stay!

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Posted 12/8/2008 22:49 (#30283 - in reply to #29174)
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I'm not at all confident about Friday, and I'll be relaxing my no-voting rule to put a few votes Stuart's way.
I hope the fact that he nominated purely tactically, will count against him. Shows that all his talk about wanting to leave is so much bullshine.

I really hope Rachel survives.



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Posted 12/8/2008 22:54 (#30284 - in reply to #30283)
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I'm not at all confident about Friday, and I'll be relaxing my no-voting rule to put a few votes Stuart's way.
I hope the fact that he nominated purely tactically, will count against him. Shows that all his talk about wanting to leave is so much bullshine.

I really hope Rachel survives.



From what I've read, Rachel deserves to win, but they're not having any of my money.
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Posted 13/8/2008 00:17 (#30285 - in reply to #30284)
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boldjohn - 12/8/2008 22:54
From what I've read, Rachel deserves to win, but they're not having any of my money.


They wouldn't be getting any of it - all their profits from voting are being donated to charity this year.

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Posted 14/8/2008 22:30 (#30297 - in reply to #30284)
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emptybox - 12/8/2008 22:49

I'm not at all confident about Friday, and I'll be relaxing my no-voting rule to put a few votes Stuart's way.
I hope the fact that he nominated purely tactically, will count against him. Shows that all his talk about wanting to leave is so much bullshine.

I really hope Rachel survives.

From what I've read, Rachel deserves to win, but they're not having any of my money.

I've just voted to evict Stuart on your behalf Boldjohn.

 

 

How many of us are supporting Rachel this year?


 

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Posted 14/8/2008 22:44 (#30299 - in reply to #30297)
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How many of us are supporting Rachel this year?


I've taken the plunge and started frequenting DigiSpy this week and I've noticed quite a few familiar names in the Rachel Appreciation thread.

I thought Rachel was adorable on tonight's highlights. Meanwhilst Nicole is shaping up to being one of my most disliked housemates this year - didn't take her long

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Yes, I've also seen a few familiar signature there, Julian.

Rachel caught my attention a few weeks back when Rex was having a go at her and BB showed him her introduction VT, which I thought was rather unfair. I have since seen that she has a big heart and she is loyal to her friends. She is the only housemate I want to see win this year, with Darnell runner up.
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Posted 15/8/2008 08:14 (#30301 - in reply to #30299)
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Julian - 14/8/2008 22:44
Interested Observer - 14/8/2008 22:30 How many of us are supporting Rachel this year?
I've taken the plunge and started frequenting DigiSpy this week and I've noticed quite a few familiar names in the Rachel Appreciation thread. I thought Rachel was adorable on tonight's highlights. Meanwhilst Nicole is shaping up to being one of my most disliked housemates this year - didn't take her long Regards Julian

Rex and Nicole are a perfect match. 

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Posted 15/8/2008 11:12 (#30302 - in reply to #29174)
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i want stu to go tonight though i do like him still. ive changed my mind cos of rex's bullying to rachel! wanna wipe the smirk of rex's face. apperently rex said hes dead sure rachels gonna go and if stu does he'll buy darnell a ticket to thailand. haha cant wait to see his face!
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Posted 15/8/2008 21:26 (#30310 - in reply to #29174)
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I have cracked tonight and have actually voted to evict Stuart.  I vowed never to give Endemol a anything after the BB7 farce but Davina's blatant bias on tonight's show just made me do my bit to try and save Rachel.
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Posted 15/8/2008 22:00 (#30311 - in reply to #29174)
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Stuart has been evicted with 59% of the vote.
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Posted 15/8/2008 23:22 (#30312 - in reply to #30310)
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premierscfc - 15/8/2008 21:26 I have cracked tonight and have actually voted to evict Stuart.  I vowed never to give Endemol a anything after the BB7 farce but Davina's blatant bias on tonight's show just made me do my bit to try and save Rachel.

Same here.
Although I must admit I cracked a little sooner (Tuesday night), and probably rather more often.  

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Posted 16/8/2008 00:26 (#30314 - in reply to #30312)
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Yeah I haven't voted as much since the BB7 final but it was worth it

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Having just watched tonights episode I just want to say before a certain administrator claims it to be the case, that when Mo suddenly launches into an anti Sara rant when he realises that she doesnt like him in that way, with Darnell joining in, that.... and I want to make it crystal clear...... SHE DID NOT LEAD HIM ON....... she couldnt have been less leading on.
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bradley27 - 17/8/2008 23:09 Having just watched tonights episode I just want to say before a certain administrator claims it to be the case, that when Mo suddenly launches into an anti Sara rant when he realises that she doesnt like him in that way, with Darnell joining in, that.... and I want to make it crystal clear...... SHE DID NOT LEAD HIM ON....... she couldnt have been less leading on.

Does this have anything to do whatsoever with the points raised earlier in this thread.  If you do not do one thing one day does not mean you have never done that thing before.

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bradley27 - 17/8/2008 23:09 Having just watched tonights episode I just want to say before a certain administrator claims it to be the case, that when Mo suddenly launches into an anti Sara rant when he realises that she doesnt like him in that way, with Darnell joining in, that.... and I want to make it crystal clear...... SHE DID NOT LEAD HIM ON....... she couldnt have been less leading on.

Does this have anything to do whatsoever with the points raised earlier in this thread.  If you do not do one thing one day does not mean you have never done that thing before.



WHAT???? No I mean before the gang in there start on Sara, saying shes leading Mo on now, as they will inevitably will, as suddenly Mo seems to think he is in there with a chance judging on last nights h/ls.

It seems that last night they seemed to be ganging up on her and Lisa claiming them to be a group, whereas they arent of course. According to Darnell (the actual flirt in the house), she moves from one person to another and now shes with lisa.... wrong you bitter little man, she has always been friends with Lisa. And being friends with everyone is not a terrible thing, she has been kind and nice to everyone. Darnell is just showing that if he cant get a woman he attacks them (just lie he did with Bex, who he seemed only interested in when drunk... charming)

Inbetween they still had time to attack Rachel as well as Rex demonising the "woman he supposedly loves". I hope Nicole leaves and starts a better live away from her abuser (because thats what he is), but as with most victims she doesnt understand that she has to leave or her life will be ruined.

I find this years BB the most sexist ever from the hms to a lot of the comments, where the victims of the bullying and attacks get abused and the bullies appalded. This year has really saddened me and left me very depressed about our society.
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Posted 18/8/2008 13:28 (#30339 - in reply to #30337)
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I really like Sara, actually. I think she's been getting a bit of a raw deal in there and doesn't even realize it.

I think Sara will be very lucky to avoid being up this week. If she's up with Nicole she'll be safe enough but if she's up against Lisa I'm not so sure. I would save her though.

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bradley27 - 17/8/2008 23:09 Having just watched tonights episode I just want to say before a certain administrator claims it to be the case, that when Mo suddenly launches into an anti Sara rant when he realises that she doesnt like him in that way, with Darnell joining in, that.... and I want to make it crystal clear...... SHE DID NOT LEAD HIM ON....... she couldnt have been less leading on.

Does this have anything to do whatsoever with the points raised earlier in this thread. If you do not do one thing one day does not mean you have never done that thing before.

WHAT???? No I mean before the gang in there start on Sara, saying shes leading Mo on now, as they will inevitably will, as suddenly Mo seems to think he is in there with a chance judging on last nights h/ls. It seems that last night they seemed to be ganging up on her and Lisa claiming them to be a group, whereas they arent of course. According to Darnell (the actual flirt in the house), she moves from one person to another and now shes with lisa.... wrong you bitter little man, she has always been friends with Lisa. And being friends with everyone is not a terrible thing, she has been kind and nice to everyone. Darnell is just showing that if he cant get a woman he attacks them (just lie he did with Bex, who he seemed only interested in when drunk... charming) Inbetween they still had time to attack Rachel as well as Rex demonising the "woman he supposedly loves". I hope Nicole leaves and starts a better live away from her abuser (because thats what he is), but as with most victims she doesnt understand that she has to leave or her life will be ruined. I find this years BB the most sexist ever from the hms to a lot of the comments, where the victims of the bullying and attacks get abused and the bullies appalded. This year has really saddened me and left me very depressed about our society.

 

You were putting words in my mouth.  You were assuming I was going to blame Sara for what you saw last night.  I was just pointing out that what you saw last night has nothing to do with what had gone on in the house previously and has already been discussed to death in this thread.

Rex is a nasty piece of work with his attitude to Nicole but Nicole also has to take her share of the blame for the way he treats her.  He is nasty to her face so she knows exactly what he is like yet she lets him treat her like crap.  She needs to get a grip and get away from him but in my opinion she lets him treat her badly as long as he is spending money on her.  If Rex was poor Nicole would not be with him.  I think they are two horrible people who deserve each other.

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The idea of REAL couples in the BB house discussing intimate details of their private lives turns my stomach. I'm sure we all know of people who mistreat their partners. It makes me angry, but it's not really any of my business. All couples have issues that should remain private. If they are happy to discuss their private lives in front of millions, are they performing for the cameras? Are they faking a stormy relationship to increase media interest? It doesn't seem like pleasant viewing to me.
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Posted 18/8/2008 14:37 (#30345 - in reply to #30342)
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bradley27 - 17/8/2008 23:09 Having just watched tonights episode I just want to say before a certain administrator claims it to be the case, that when Mo suddenly launches into an anti Sara rant when he realises that she doesnt like him in that way, with Darnell joining in, that.... and I want to make it crystal clear...... SHE DID NOT LEAD HIM ON....... she couldnt have been less leading on.

Does this have anything to do whatsoever with the points raised earlier in this thread. If you do not do one thing one day does not mean you have never done that thing before.

WHAT???? No I mean before the gang in there start on Sara, saying shes leading Mo on now, as they will inevitably will, as suddenly Mo seems to think he is in there with a chance judging on last nights h/ls. It seems that last night they seemed to be ganging up on her and Lisa claiming them to be a group, whereas they arent of course. According to Darnell (the actual flirt in the house), she moves from one person to another and now shes with lisa.... wrong you bitter little man, she has always been friends with Lisa. And being friends with everyone is not a terrible thing, she has been kind and nice to everyone. Darnell is just showing that if he cant get a woman he attacks them (just lie he did with Bex, who he seemed only interested in when drunk... charming) Inbetween they still had time to attack Rachel as well as Rex demonising the "woman he supposedly loves". I hope Nicole leaves and starts a better live away from her abuser (because thats what he is), but as with most victims she doesnt understand that she has to leave or her life will be ruined. I find this years BB the most sexist ever from the hms to a lot of the comments, where the victims of the bullying and attacks get abused and the bullies appalded. This year has really saddened me and left me very depressed about our society.

 

You were putting words in my mouth.  You were assuming I was going to blame Sara for what you saw last night.  I was just pointing out that what you saw last night has nothing to do with what had gone on in the house previously and has already been discussed to death in this thread.

Rex is a nasty piece of work with his attitude to Nicole but Nicole also has to take her share of the blame for the way he treats her.  He is nasty to her face so she knows exactly what he is like yet she lets him treat her like crap.  She needs to get a grip and get away from him but in my opinion she lets him treat her badly as long as he is spending money on her.  If Rex was poor Nicole would not be with him.  I think they are two horrible people who deserve each other.



I wasnt trying to put words in your mouth (otherwise you might have made sense for once ). I knew what you meant.

And I do agree with you with Nicole. She is far from perfect and she should leave, but thats the trouble sometimes. It seems so obviously from the side, but in the middle of it, people dont always think sensibly. Its the same when someone is beaten up by their partner, why do they stay to receive more punishment? It makes no sense, but they often do. I dont understand why, but I do think in this case, it was quite telling when she said that if she didnt have Rex she would have no one. I think she believes that, whether thats right or wrong, and often the victim is left feeling isolated and having nowhere to turn. Obviously she does as do victims of domestic abuse but they cant see it. Anyway that cheered me up, I'm off to kick the cat......

Only joking, we dont have a cat, so next door's cat with have to do
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Posted 18/8/2008 22:20 (#30358 - in reply to #30297)
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boldjohn - 12/8/2008 22:54
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I'm not at all confident about Friday, and I'll be relaxing my no-voting rule to put a few votes Stuart's way.
I hope the fact that he nominated purely tactically, will count against him. Shows that all his talk about wanting to leave is so much bullshine.

I really hope Rachel survives.

From what I've read, Rachel deserves to win, but they're not having any of my money.

I've just voted to evict Stuart on your behalf Boldjohn.

 

 

How many of us are supporting Rachel this year?


 



That's kind of you. I'll be supporting Rachel on the forums and looking out for her after BB9.
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Posted 22/8/2008 22:01 (#30413 - in reply to #29174)
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Nicole has been evicted and taken Sezer's record away from him getting 94.04% of the vote.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=14875

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Posted 22/8/2008 22:16 (#30415 - in reply to #30413)
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Nicole has been evicted and taken Sezer's record away from him getting 94.04% of the vote.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=14875




OUCH!!
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Posted 2/9/2008 22:40 (#30537 - in reply to #29174)
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Mohammed was evicted with 1.8% of the vote followed by Kathreya with 4.8% of the vote.  C4 trying to rewrite history by pretending spitgate never happened.
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Posted 3/9/2008 00:37 (#30538 - in reply to #30537)
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Mohammed was evicted with 1.8% of the vote followed by Kathreya with 4.8% of the vote.  C4 trying to rewrite history by pretending spitgate never happened.


I'm not defending them but might it be because of the police investigation still going on.

Either way its no surprise as it never gets mentioned, and to me Mo has lost any sympathy I had for him at the time by behaving the way he has since. He's stabbed real friends in the back, bullied along with darnell and Rex (I still dont understand why he wasnt given a warning as well) and basically in my opinion is the lowest of the low, by being the "hunting becoming the hunter". As bad as Rex and Darnell are, the fact that Mo tries to copy them and has harassed women in there, not just Sara but Rachel as well, and his pathetic comment about Rachel on tonights eviction shows exactly why he doesnt have a g/f and shouldnt till he grows up.

As for Kat, well one minute shes in floods then she sees a camera and she suddenly is OK again. Her defence of Rex was quite sickening too. And her supposed love for Rachel wasnt in evidence whenever Rex attacked Rachel.

At least 2 of the rotten 4 have gone, hopefully Rex and Darnell will be the first two out (cant understand how anyone can support these bullies, goodness knows how people would be with them if they were women) on Friday, then its all good as the best 3 will be left and it wont matter to me which one wins.... I'd prefer it to be Rachel, sara then Micky, but any combination will do me.
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Posted 4/9/2008 20:15 (#30560 - in reply to #29174)
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i want sara or rex 2 win! most like sara 2 win ..would quiete like 2 see rachel win aswell

but sara is my fave so far



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Posted 5/9/2008 14:14 (#30573 - in reply to #29174)
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personally I will be depressed if either Rex or darnell win. I dont know what it says about our society if these throwbacks can treat women they way they have and emerge victorious. Its bad enough that Jade made a fortune out of being a bully from her BB and still is able to even after last CBB, but at least she never won or was any closer than 4th. There seems a real possibility that Darnell and especially Rex might win it. As long as one of the other three win, I will be happy
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Posted 5/9/2008 20:46 (#30576 - in reply to #30573)
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personally I will be depressed if either Rex or darnell win. I dont know what it says about our society if these throwbacks can treat women they way they have and emerge victorious. Its bad enough that Jade made a fortune out of being a bully from her BB and still is able to even after last CBB, but at least she never won or was any closer than 4th. There seems a real possibility that Darnell and especially Rex might win it. As long as one of the other three win, I will be happy


I hope all you diehard BB fans all enjoy the final. I'll be glued to the forums and (if rumours of a 30 minute delay are true) learn who's won before those watching "live". My daughter (the Big Brother fan in our house) is complaining that Darnell (her favourite) has been evicted. Good luck to Rachel, who has apparently been flawless throughout the show.
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Posted 5/9/2008 20:57 (#30577 - in reply to #29174)
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Its Rachel v Mikey for the crown :-)


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Posted 5/9/2008 20:57 (#30578 - in reply to #29174)
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Darnell was voted out 5th with 14.9% of a 5 way vote.  Rex was out in 4th place with 22.5% of a 4 way vote followed by Sara in 3rd with 30.1% of a 3 way vote.  The voting is probably the closest it has ever been in a BB final.
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Posted 5/9/2008 21:15 (#30579 - in reply to #29174)
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There can be no more than 8% in it either way

However in the first final I think Craig beat Anna by 2%

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Posted 5/9/2008 21:21 (#30580 - in reply to #30578)
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Darnell was voted out 5th with 14.9% of a 5 way vote.  Rex was out in 4th place with 22.5% of a 4 way vote followed by Sara in 3rd with 30.1% of a 3 way vote.  The voting is probably the closest it has ever been in a BB final.


its unbelieveably close. I mean fifth place getting 14.9 when the mean is 20% meant they were all very close. Thats been confirmed with Rex getting 22.5 (mean: 25%) and Sara getting 30.1% (mean: 33.3%). I cant believe how close the voting must have been.

But I'm happy, the two bullies went and even though I would have preferred Sara to finish second, I've said all week that as long as the top three were Rachel Sara and Mikey in whatever order, I would be happy. So I'm happy
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Posted 5/9/2008 21:43 (#30581 - in reply to #29174)
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Posted 5/9/2008 22:20 (#30583 - in reply to #29174)
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RACHEL WINS!!! YAY!!!!!
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Posted 5/9/2008 22:21 (#30584 - in reply to #29174)
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Rachel has won BB9.   I don't have the % yet.
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Posted 5/9/2008 22:32 (#30585 - in reply to #29174)
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Rachel got 51.3%.  Maybe my votes did make a difference.
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Posted 5/9/2008 22:41 (#30586 - in reply to #29174)
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Probably the 2nd closest result after BB1
Also I think the first time 2 girls finished in first 3
Rachel got some boos when she came out - pathetic!

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Posted 5/9/2008 23:02 (#30587 - in reply to #30581)
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ofni - 5/9/2008 21:43

I'm just loving the dummy-spitting, fuming and fretting, sour-grapes-sucking, frustrated fury and impotent rage of the Anti-Rachel and anti-Mikey Brigades on the DS forum.


I hope it makes them feel better.

Well done to Rachel
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Posted 5/9/2008 23:14 (#30588 - in reply to #29174)
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The rest of the housemates are coming across as very bitter on BBBM.  Ever likely they got voted out before Rachel.  There has probably been more house mates I dislike in this series than in any other series of BB.
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What a very weird and rather nasty BBBM.

The general theme, orchestrated by Davina, seemed to be "Let's Punish Rachel for Winning"
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Posted 6/9/2008 01:43 (#30590 - in reply to #29174)
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I can't say how delighted I am that Rachel won.

And how disgusted I am by Davina's lack of professionalism and anti-Rachel bias.

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I'm over the moon that Rachel won. Regardless what the other housemates think, for me she's the most deserving BB winner ever. Even when she was down to the last two she never had the slightest thought that she might win it, the surprise on her face was brilliant

The order was actually pretty much perfect, too. Darnell and Rex out first, Sara in the top three, Mikey and Rachel together in the end. Couldn't have scripted it better

BBBM was, as always, quite uncomfortable. Fortunately there were a few people who stood up for her but Davina asking her about splitting the money was so out of order

Anyway, time for bed. I'll worry about my phone bill another day

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Wishing Rachel the best. Rachel said 2 things that stood out for me at her interview, that I have to give her respect for. Firstly for saying "I know who I am." Secondly for saying "I am not perfect. (The latter is sooooo true but next to the others, it gave the impression she was perfect almost which is why I think she won so many more votes) "Personally I think she won a lot of votes by default. But no doubt there are people who love her through and through. If I am honest I was unaffected by her presence in the house and her win. That said I didn't watch the whole thing. I watched bits of it I was drawn to it because of Darnell. Now I know that Darnell has issues, but I think it seems to stem from not loving or accepting himself. If you struggle to love yourself you will struggle to love others. He needs some serious therapy to help him conquer his demons, and some tender loving care from the right person (Not Sara) IMHO. It seems her and Darnell want different things out of the relationship. This will only lead to Darnell being hurt even more, so not a good idea. (The way he reacted to Sara's confused signals is what cost him the title IMHO. Like Ash I would have loved for him to win it. However, I knew he would be out first because of the Sara situation mainly and the fact that he always seemed to be down on himself. I wasn't too keen on her at times she brought out the worse in Darnell. But I thought it was great how Darnell took responsibility for his actions. That is what I love about the guy he is real. Unlike Rex who was arrogant IMHO, and doesn't care. Rachel winning this year makes me wonder why Ash didn't win her year. It seems none of her housemates apart from Mikey and Kat thought she should have won. I don't think anyone apart from Imogen would have been happy if Ash won her year. Of course Ash and Rachel are 2 different people, but Ash winning would have been more deserving and more satisfying for me as a viewer not that I want to take anything away from Rachel.....

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Well done Rachel, but I was spitting feathers at the repugnant Davina and her interview with Rachel. I dont care if they wanted Rachel to win or not, you dont give an interview like that to the winner. Thats not the time for Rachel to have to defend herself from the stupid comments of the losers, and by all accounts it was worse on BBBM where Davina asked her if she was going to share the winnings with the others????? WTF!!!! When did that question ever get asked before to the winner. Putting her on the spot like that was a disgrace. I wish Rachel would have said "Tell you what Davina, no doubt you earned more than £100,000 for your lousy work this year, why dont you split your money instead?". And Davina seemed to continue to repeat all night her golden boy, Ratface Luke's claim, that Rachel was different in the DR, even on BBBM, claiming she bitched in there??? What utter lies. Whether people liked Rachel or not, she was no different inside or out of the DR. In fact earlier on in the series when the whisper club went week by week and claimed this (although how they could know as they couldnt see the DR coverage), Davina used to tell them she wasnt.

I hope some of you got to hear Big Ears afterwards as I got on again right at the end. I told them I wanted to say that Big Ears was the best part of BB this year, which it was, but I didnt tell them what I mainly wanted to say. And that was that Davina was disgraceful with her treatment of Rachel. Thankfully I was able to get to do that but annoyingly the show on the net seemed to cut off halfway through my chat and therefore the people listening didnt hear it all. Coincidence or not, you decide. Anyway its on the Big Ears playback now and its basically the last two minutes and its all of the chat. I dont know how much of that went out last night. They did cut me off after that point, but I got my point across. I'd be interested to heard what others thought.
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Posted 6/9/2008 11:04 (#30595 - in reply to #30592)
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mich007 - 6/9/2008 06:12
"Personally I think she won a lot of votes by default. But no doubt there are people who love her through and through. If I am honest I was unaffected by her presence in the house and her win. That said I didn't watch the whole thing.



If anyone was going to get the default vote (i.e. the one where you don't have to have watched it) it would have been Mikey because of his disability. Although I do think his second place was well earned in his own right.

If more of what we saw on the live feed had been shown in the highlight shows I don't think there would be nearly as many people wondering what Rachel contributed.

If you spent any time on the DigitalSpy forums you'll have seen there were a lot of people extremely passionate about Rachel winning. Many of us voted over a hundred times (I think I was close to 200!) and I'm convinced that it was because of the dedication and passion of her fans on the internet which swung it for Rachel this time.

For me it was very much a repeat of the feeling I had during the BB7 final and I voted more this time precisely because the measly 70 odd votes I did for Aisleyne hadn't worked last time. That and the calls were cheaper this year

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Posted 6/9/2008 15:40 (#30601 - in reply to #29174)
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what a load of sh** the final was. i mean everything was dead short and went 2 fast and rachels interview was the shortest out of all of them. she only got shown her best bits yet everyone else got shown bits and there best bits. was totally and utterly sh**e. what a waste of time this bb has been. im happy for rachel though..just the whole final show it self was crap.

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Posted 6/9/2008 15:58 (#30602 - in reply to #29174)
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I was engulfed by this years Big Brother. One housemate was not favoured by the production team. She was targeted by the bullies. She was chastised by the game players. She was considerate and true to herself. She won the hearts of the diehard BB fanatics. In some ways, Rachel’s appearance on Big Brother was similar to that of Aisleyne’s.

I believe that viewing figures have been low this year. The vote of the casual viewer, that is influence by the editing, would have been less significant. If this had been the case during BB7, we would have made Aisleyne the winner. I see Rachel’s win as a win for Aisleyne.

I supported, voted and won a significant bet on Rachel’s victory. In some was, I feel that this year, I supported, voted and won my bet on Aisleyne, who is still my favourite BB contestant.
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Posted 7/9/2008 13:49 (#30612 - in reply to #30602)
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Interested Observer - 6/9/2008 15:58

I was engulfed by this years Big Brother. One housemate was not favoured by the production team. She was targeted by the bullies. She was chastised by the game players. She was considerate and true to herself. She won the hearts of the diehard BB fanatics. In some ways, Rachel’s appearance on Big Brother was similar to that of Aisleyne’s.

I believe that viewing figures have been low this year. The vote of the casual viewer, that is influence by the editing, would have been less significant. If this had been the case during BB7, we would have made Aisleyne the winner. I see Rachel’s win as a win for Aisleyne.

I supported, voted and won a significant bet on Rachel’s victory. In some was, I feel that this year, I supported, voted and won my bet on Aisleyne, who is still my favourite BB contestant.


Interesting comments about the viewing figures. So the continued interference of the commercially driven producers appears to have backfired.

I was interested in this year's Big Brother although I never saw any of it. I will never forget what happened to Aisleyne on BB7 and all the comments on the forums indicate that little has changed as far as the contempt that the producers show to the viewers. The only positive note is that the bad edits and favouritism on BBLB and BBBM do not seem to work these days. All credit is due to right thinking forum members who have called every eviction correctly and had the forum favourite (the Aisleyne of BB9) crowned as the winner.
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boldjohn
Posted 7/9/2008 13:52 (#30613 - in reply to #30601)
Subject: Re: Big Brother 9


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sophie - 6/9/2008 15:40

what a load of sh** the final was. i mean everything was dead short and went 2 fast and rachels interview was the shortest out of all of them. she only got shown her best bits yet everyone else got shown bits and there best bits. was totally and utterly sh**e. what a waste of time this bb has been. im happy for rachel though..just the whole final show it self was crap.


As far as I can remember, it's always been the same. You'd think by now, they would have learned how to present a live final show.
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dal1966
Posted 7/9/2008 23:53 (#30615 - in reply to #29174)
Subject: Re: Big Brother 9


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Well done Rachel, she deserved to win. The rubbish that she had to put up with in that house was sometimes horrible to watch. What a nasty bitter twisted little man Luke is, i liked it when the crowd looked at Luke and chanted JEALOUS, JEALOUS, JEALOUS..
A victory for good over nasty.

Edited by dal1966 7/9/2008 23:54
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dal1966
Posted 8/9/2008 00:02 (#30616 - in reply to #30591)
Subject: RE: Big Brother 9


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Julian - 6/9/2008 02:04

I'm over the moon that Rachel won. Regardless what the other housemates think, for me she's the most deserving BB winner ever. Even when she was down to the last two she never had the slightest thought that she might win it, the surprise on her face was brilliant

The order was actually pretty much perfect, too. Darnell and Rex out first, Sara in the top three, Mikey and Rachel together in the end. Couldn't have scripted it better

BBBM was, as always, quite uncomfortable. Fortunately there were a few people who stood up for her but Davina asking her about splitting the money was so out of order

Anyway, time for bed. I'll worry about my phone bill another day

Regards

Julian


Davina should donate her big fat pay cheque to charity, im sure Davina can afford it.

Davina was utterly disgracefal all night, i've lost all respect for Davina after BBBM.
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